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re: Anyone else surprised by the anti-Payton sentiments on this board?
Posted on 9/14/14 at 10:22 pm to LSUZombie
Posted on 9/14/14 at 10:22 pm to LSUZombie
No, because the fans are spoiled. Let a couple of losses happen and they're faced with the question of whether the team is positioned to go 19-0 like so many of them expect. They have to lash out and the coach is a prime target.
Posted on 9/14/14 at 10:41 pm to Jake88
We're spoiled because we're winning, but to say that the playcalling is bad is true in every way.
Ingram is our leading rusher through 2 games:
24 carries
143 yards
5.96 ypc
3 TDs
4 receptions
22 yards
fyi, projected Ingram for the year at this rate:
192 carries
1144 yards
He has the most carries and yards, but yet we throw the ball ~80 times in two games when the run game is WORKING.
The run game isn't getting pulverized like last year when our RBs were meeting a DL in the backfield. We CAN and should run the ball. The passing game CAN feed off of the running game, but what defense will care about the running game when we never stick to it. Ingram breaks off for a decent 5-8yard run and he's taken out right away and we throw the next play. Every single time.
Ingram is our leading rusher through 2 games:
24 carries
143 yards
5.96 ypc
3 TDs
4 receptions
22 yards
fyi, projected Ingram for the year at this rate:
192 carries
1144 yards
He has the most carries and yards, but yet we throw the ball ~80 times in two games when the run game is WORKING.
The run game isn't getting pulverized like last year when our RBs were meeting a DL in the backfield. We CAN and should run the ball. The passing game CAN feed off of the running game, but what defense will care about the running game when we never stick to it. Ingram breaks off for a decent 5-8yard run and he's taken out right away and we throw the next play. Every single time.
Posted on 9/14/14 at 11:04 pm to Jake88
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No, because the fans are spoiled. Let a couple of losses happen and they're faced with the question of whether the team is positioned to go 19-0 like so many of them expect. They have to lash out and the coach is a prime target.
We've been through rough starts before and NEVER blamed Payton. 2007, 2008, 2010 are examples. Brees got more blame than Payton ever did.
Last year was a little different and this year (especially today) is really different b/c it's so obvious that he's missing the mark on drive after drive after drive. We only have success when we lead with the run - that's when the passing starts to flow. And yet he doesn't stick with this formula for success. It's maddening, especially after we saw the run carry us to victory in Philadelphia and keep us in the game in Seattle WAY better than the passing did on our previous trip up there earlier in the year. I had fully thought that Payton had turned it around after he saw the run key us to victory in harsh weather in Philly.
This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 9/14/14 at 11:32 pm to Jake88
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No, because the fans are spoiled. Let a couple of losses happen and they're faced with the question of whether the team is positioned to go 19-0 like so many of them expect. They have to lash out and the coach is a prime target.
You're right. Who should we blame instead when we go into a timeout and emerge with a false start, sack, busted play, etc, as happens constantly under Payton? The waterboy?
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