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Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:38 am to Choctaw
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you don't elect community organizers to the highest office in the land and not expect a shitshow
Simple and accurate.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:42 am to Jbird
Regardless of personal persuasions and opinions of Barry, I truly hope he has a succinct and explainable strategy lined up b/c this has been allowed to continue for far too long.
It's a "world" problem now, not just US/Syria/Iraq so everyone needs to contribute to the effort.
It's a "world" problem now, not just US/Syria/Iraq so everyone needs to contribute to the effort.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 10:58 am to Jbird
Sadly I don't think the American people will remember any of those things.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 11:06 am to the808bass
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History extends back past his election in 2008.
No it doesn't. Well not any History that matters, anyway.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 11:07 am to Jbird
This should be his "Mission Accomplished" moment, but the media won't do its job...
Posted on 9/9/14 at 11:15 am to the808bass
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Shoulda never been there to start.
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But the reality of being an executive (whether government or otherwise) is that you have to deal with the reality you were handed. Bush should have never had to deal with OBL. Clinton should have taken him. But that's what happens when you're the fricking President. You can't look at every one of your own miscalculations and say "well, that's part of a larger issue I didn't cause." No shite. History extends back past his election in 2008.
Please tell me the connection between Iraq & OBL.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 11:22 am to Wtodd
There's no connection I'd like to make. I was simply pointing to another calamity a President had which was caused (to some degree) by the actions of the President before him (or inaction, as the case may be).
Posted on 9/9/14 at 11:24 am to the808bass
Understand......the post about we should have never been there is spot on and we helped to really frick up Iraq by getting rid of Saddam. Say what you want but as of right now Iraq would be better off with him vs without him.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 11:37 am to TT9
quote:Doesn't matter since Obama knew we were there when he ran for the office. He was more than willing to seek credit for his policies with respect to Iraq when he ran for re-election. Is he man enough to accept criticism when the evidence indicates his policies failed? And how does your comment apply to Syria or Ukraine?
Shoulda never been there to start.
No rational human expects perfection from the President. But all rational humans should expect the President to acknowledge failed policies and modify them. Will Obama acknowledge the failures of his foreign policies?
Posted on 9/9/14 at 11:41 am to the808bass
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I'm not convinced Obama could run an Ace hardware, let alone our country.
This guy couldn't run a junior-high goat-roping event.
Posted on 9/9/14 at 11:43 am to FightinTigersDammit
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Rather than clearly see the persistent dangers as the United States approaches the 13th anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, they said, Mr. Obama perpetually imagines a world as he wishes it were.
That's a quote from the NY Times I agree with
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