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re: "Militarization of the Police" discussion
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:20 pm to Jcorye1
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:20 pm to Jcorye1
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You keep going with this argument, assuming we are only talking about armor. Police are also practicing military style maneuvers and using military grade weapons.
Because, as I asked at the beginning, is it the way they LOOK or is it what they are DOING? No one has answered that. As far as the weapons, are you talking lethal weapons (the ones that they haven't fired a single time?) or are you talking about the less lethal pepperball guns, tasers, etc? Because, for the most part, the military doesn't use those.
Or is it the tear gas and smoke? Because the police were using that in the 60's and no one was crying "military" back then.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:26 pm to jbgleason
It's been answered multiple times, you just keep focusing on the "we should be able to protect ourselves!!!!" section of it.
No, I do not think police have any use for Iraqi grade Humvees. I also do not believe the police should be trained in a military subculture of "ATTENTION!" every time a commanding officer comes in.
Also, if you think that body armor isn't being designed to be a psychological deterrent, you are out of your mind.
No, I do not think police have any use for Iraqi grade Humvees. I also do not believe the police should be trained in a military subculture of "ATTENTION!" every time a commanding officer comes in.
Also, if you think that body armor isn't being designed to be a psychological deterrent, you are out of your mind.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:38 pm to jbgleason
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Because, as I asked at the beginning, is it the way they LOOK or is it what they are DOING? No one has answered that.
You are being intellectually dishonest. Many people have answered your very simple questions. You clearly have an agenda but you cowardly hide behind "I'm just asking questions, sheesh!".
But I'll answer you flatly: it's what they're doing. Like this idiot with an AR-15 with a simple 3x magnifier propped up like he's Chris Kyle. I've got better optics on pellet guns.
Or any of the other hundreds of photos of police behaving like idiots from this thing. Or stories of them manhandling reporters for no reason. Or the fact that a curfew is a First Amendment violation. I know you think they're in the right. You've made that clear. But I want you to know that you're an idiot.
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Why do y'all keep saying this like they're using live ammo? They are loaded with rubber bullets, bean bags or in the case of the paintball guns, pepper balls. Just curious?
Tell you what. Go draw a Sig 229 on a stranger in the street. When the cops arrive explain that there were rubber bullets in it and that she had no reason to be afraid. They definitely won't charge you with assault with a deadly weapon then.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 8/20/14 at 8:43 am to jbgleason
Its the us vs them mentality. Treating citizens like enemy combatants isn't the solution. Further when the supreme court decides that the police don't have a duty to protect only a duty to enforce laws it further underlines that the police are not on the side of the citizens.
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