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re: AD knocking down 3s on par with Curry/Thompson in practice
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:47 pm to htran90
Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:47 pm to htran90
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Having a complete game isn't necessary, but it does help if he's a more complete player
I think this is where you lose me. In my mind, front court players aren't supposed to be outside shooters. So they can be "complete" players without a 3pt shot. It's not necessary. In the 80's, the league was full of Centers that could shoot just as well as guards (Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Daugherty..). But those teams succeeded because those Centers dominated in the paint and operated within a system.
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No one wants him chucking up 3's everytime he touches the ball, but if teams are going to dare him to shoot it by clogging the lane leaving him somewhat open, wouldn't you rather him be able to knock it down?
I don't know how this would be possible. Your saying that Davis wouldn't be able to get inside the paint? He should already be there posting up or fighting for position. Something is wrong if he is trying to create at the top of the key. He's not a guard and it's asking him to do to much.
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I bet it would open up the lanes in the middle for our guards.
I get it. But I don't understand pulling front court players out of the paint, that are proficient post scorers, to give guards lanes to drive. That can work in spurts, but that offense won't work long term.
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Evans practicing an outside shot this summer as well shows me everyone is trying to complete their offensive game
I hate to burst your bubble, but Evans has been working on his outside shooting every summer he has been in the league. He says the same thing every summer. I just read a Slam article from last summer where he said all the same things. I'll believe it when I see it.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 7:48 pm
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:11 pm to brmark70816
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I think this is where you lose me. In my mind, front court players aren't supposed to be outside shooters.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:19 pm to brmark70816
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No one wants him chucking up 3's everytime he touches the ball, but if teams are going to dare him to shoot it by clogging the lane leaving him somewhat open, wouldn't you rather him be able to knock it down?
I don't know how this would be possible. Your saying that Davis wouldn't be able to get inside the paint? He should already be there posting up or fighting for position. Something is wrong if he is trying to create at the top of the key. He's not a guard and it's asking him to do to much.
This is the flaw in the let him shoot 3s to open spacing logic. Davis already commands constant attention from defenses. Moving him out to the 3PT line wouldn't change that. Evans already gets to the rim whenever he wants. It's how you manipulate those facts to create shots for others that counts.
Plus, Davis's two best moves right now are one dribble to the rim and one dribble pull up jumper- which are both largely unguardable and happen because teams won't just sag and dare him to shoot. Getting to the rim in one bounce is a lot harder from 23 feet and one dribble pull up from 20 feet is the definition of bad shot.
Like I said earlier, he probably should add 3PT range. He has the ability and it just makes sense to add that weapon (high PnR becomes a nightmare). But he doesn't need it to dominate (see Amare Stoudemire in PHX). Even peak Dirk was only taking 2-3 3PA/G.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:51 pm to brmark70816
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In the 80's, the league was full of Centers that could shoot just as well as guards (Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Daugherty..). But those teams succeeded because those Centers dominated in the paint and operated within a system.
the game has changed, brah.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:51 pm to brmark70816
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for Davis getting bulk/majority of the points in the paint. I think that is where most of his points will come from and where he should be. Him being able to knock it down when needed if he's open (similar to how Bosh occasionally gets that open shot) is what I'm referring to.
It isn't something I want him to do on a Love-type basis, but being able to hit it at similar Dirk clips only makes him more dangerous (38-39%). During the championship season, he averaged 17fga a game and shot 3 3pt attempts. Isn't his main arsenal, but he can still knock it down.
It isn't something I want him to do on a Love-type basis, but being able to hit it at similar Dirk clips only makes him more dangerous (38-39%). During the championship season, he averaged 17fga a game and shot 3 3pt attempts. Isn't his main arsenal, but he can still knock it down.
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