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Apologies: Yet another Ferguson thread.

Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:01 pm
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:01 pm
What I am going to say will be easy fodder for anyone that wants to make racist posts but I'm hoping that it doesn't happen.

I've seen nothing that suggests that what is happening in Ferguson was facilitated by a pre-existing condition that made it ripe for this type of event. I have not come across anything that would suggest Ferguson can be differentiated from any other randomly selected suburb/municipality with similar characteristics either politically, demographically or socioeconomic.

Would it be safe to assume that every similar place in the United States has plenty of folks that are easily willing to loot, burn and commit other acts of violence and destruction given a catalyst?

If yes, what would stop something like this from going nation wide?

I can assure you that if this happened in Memphis, people in around Ferguson would think it couldn't happen there. It seems that the pieces are in place for it to happen anywhere given the right circumstances.

Going forward, I think this is the big picture. I side with the people that are legally protesting as I share a lot of their concerns about the police these days. As far as the people burning and looting, it exhibits big problems among black people that do not exist in any other ethnic group in the US.



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Posted by Zach
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:03 pm to

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Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:04 pm to
Putting Brown down was just getting a TPOS off the street, it needs to happen more and more often, will make these oxygen bandits think twice about looting and strong arm robbery.
Posted by ODanMan
Prairieville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:09 pm to
I agree , and the solution rest within the black community. There is no white or government solution , I for one could give a rats arse what happens in the black community , all have for you is some advice.
Posted by UL-SabanRival
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:13 pm to
The problem is that I think many see nothing wrong with this behavior. It's like a guy who says something that another person doesn't like. The second person becomes violent, gets arrested, and can't understand why.

"But, your honor, he said words that I didn't like. RACISM!

Black folks have been systematically vulgarized and putrified in this country, all in the name of leftist activism, voting blocs and most of all, easy consumer revenues.
Posted by NHTIGER
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:18 pm to
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If yes, what would stop something like this from going nation wide?


It could start with not putting a microphone in front of everyone in the mob and giving them facetime on national television.

It's news, so it must be reported. So report the facts as known, and don't interview every a-hole that walks by, who doesn't have a clue as to the facts. But the news networks glorifying the actions of the mobs results in larger mobs.

Report the story and move on to the next story. There's 100 other legitimate news stories taking place every day.

The so-called reporters on the scene are as despicable as those they are reporting on. Many are in effect egging them on. The shameless and disgusting actions of Chris Hayes the other night are a perfect example, though admittedly he is not a journalist but rather an opinion-opiner.

If there were no news cameras or reporters on site, the crowds would eventually grow bored.

Posted by oldcharlie8
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 2:22 pm to
my parents taught me not to steal.


Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 3:33 pm to
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If yes, what would stop something like this from going nation wide?



I don't think anything would stop a mass panic, rioting and looting if the conditions presented itself. I've seen too many people act like nuts during hurricanes to think otherwise.
All that it would take is for government checks to stop coming for a week or two and it would be on.
This post was edited on 8/16/14 at 3:34 pm
Posted by Holden Caulfield
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 3:34 pm to
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If yes, what would stop something like this from going nation wide?

Apathy is the only answer I could come up with.
Posted by the808bass
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 6:28 pm to
quote:

every similar place in the United States has plenty of folks that are easily willing to loot, burn and commit other acts of violence and destruction given a


I think the mistake is in assuming that the majority of looters are from Ferguson.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 10:55 pm to
quote:


I've seen nothing that suggests that what is happening in Ferguson was facilitated by a pre-existing condition that made it ripe for this type of event. I have not come across anything that would suggest Ferguson can be differentiated from any other randomly selected suburb/municipality with similar characteristics either politically, demographically or socioeconomic.


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Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/16/14 at 10:57 pm to
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it exhibits big problems among black people that do not exist in any other ethnic group in the US.


And if that's so, it's because no other ethnic group has gone through what they've gone through over 400 years. The norm for them for 90% of that period was the systemic and institutional devaluing and violation of their bodies and rights. It's insane to expect 360 years of state violence and mistreatment to have no cultural echoes whatsoever.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
32257 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 11:03 pm to
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I have not come across anything that would suggest Ferguson can be differentiated from any other randomly selected suburb/municipality with similar characteristics either politically, demographically or socioeconomic. 



Not sure if serious.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35707 posts
Posted on 8/16/14 at 11:07 pm to
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If yes, what would stop something like this from going nation wide?
A world of difference between the 1960's and the 2010's.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 1:31 am to
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I side with the people that are legally protesting as I share a lot of their concerns about the police these days.


These are opportunists man. Of course the police need to not only to be held to a higher standard, but also to be held in check as well, but the looters and those disobeying the curfew are pure opportunists. Yes, let's loot the local meat market who had nothing to do with this young man's demise

In a week, in a month all of this will be forgotten. You think these rioters will be continually rioting then? No way, just like Trayvon Martin's situation.....even AFTER the verdict.
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