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re: Solar w/ Battery Bank...thoughts on this idea?

Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:41 pm to
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:41 pm to
The three panel system puts out 190 amp hours. It's not the batteries that make it tick.
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 7:43 pm
Posted by cave canem
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:48 pm to
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It's not the batteries that make it tick


Please do tell where the power in the rain or at night comes from then. No doubt you can produce 3kw in bright sunlight but there is no way you are storing enough power in batteries to provide it constantly as you claim.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:50 pm to
There is technology out there that puts the two together: solar + battery and natural gas. Look up Beacon 10
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:56 pm to
Obviously after the sun goes down the power supplying the batteries stops. At night homes don't use as much power and the power stored in the batteries will run what's needed at night.
Posted by LSU Fan SLU Grad
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 8:01 pm to
Yes, this is a horrible idea. Stick to a standard generator. Panels also bring down the value of homes in the area because they're horrendously ugly.
Posted by cave canem
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 8:19 pm to
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Obviously after the sun goes down the power supplying the batteries stops. At night homes don't use as much power and the power stored in the batteries will run what's needed at night.


And should the next day be cloudy? Solar power has its places but to claim it is a constant supply is just not true. Anyone planning to use this as a backup is going to be sorely disapointed. As a suplement to the power company is a different matter entirely.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 8:23 pm to
If you need to put 25 panels on your roof then yeah. The leased systems need 25 panels to produce 5kw, our system only needs 6 panels to produce 5kw . Plus putting panels on the roof lowers the efficiency by 20% because of the heat on the roof. Since our system is smaller it can be installed on the overhang and the panels stay cooler thus making them more efficient.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 8:29 pm to
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And should the next day be cloudy? Solar power has its places but to claim it is a constant supply is just not true. Anyone planning to use this as a backup is going to be sorely disapointed. As a suplement to the power company is a different matter entirely.


People are not using this as a backup power, they are using it as their primary power.

Cloudy does not effect the system that much because the uv light is still hitting the panels.

I understand your skepticism because this tech is new and not "out there" yet but it soon will be and it's gonna change solar.

Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 8:50 pm to
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From my understanding, batteries are much more expensive to install and they need to be replaced every 3-5 years.


Solar batteries have changed a lot in the past few years. The batteries we use actually come with a 10 year warranty and they are thinking of upping it to 12 years for our system since it doesn't draw down the batteries past 75%.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 8:51 pm to
Batteries are the biggest cost and the most un-reliable part of a solar system w/batteries.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:05 pm to
Considering every other component has a 25 year warranty...yeah
Posted by graychef
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:05 pm to
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Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:10 pm to
The efficiency of how this system converts dc to ac is what makes it special. It's what I call our secret 11 herbs and spices. It can draw power from the panels and the batteries simultaneously and rapid recharge the batteries at the same time.
Posted by graychef
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:16 pm to
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Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:20 pm to
We hope. The overseas market orders are piling up. We are going to power cell towers and install micro grids in third world countries. On the domestic end we haven't even started yet.
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 9:21 pm
Posted by wt9
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:23 pm to
How do you draw energy from the batteries and charge them at the same time? You are defying electrical laws.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:24 pm to
The best long term bang for you buck is this:

Install a 20KW NG Generator
Install a 10KW solar array

When utility power is present, your array will send every watt of power it generates back to the utility. In Louisiana, you would average 1,400kwh per month with a 10KW array. If you're using an average of 2,500kwh typically, you're only paying for 1,100kwh every month.

When you lose utility power, you lose the ability to send power back to the utility. Using an ATS, your generator would then kick on and provide power to your home.

Once utility power is restored, the ATS transfers back to the utility, the generator shuts off and you are back to sending your power back to the utility.

Posted by graychef
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:36 pm to

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Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:49 pm to
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Placebeaux


Your venture sounds very interesting and you seem excited. Good luck and keep us posted.
Posted by burgeman
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:52 pm to
What kind of price is associated with this new tech for the 10kw system?
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