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re: Inside the Islamic State
Posted on 8/13/14 at 3:59 pm to Poodlebrain
Posted on 8/13/14 at 3:59 pm to Poodlebrain
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So their bad actions are based on Islam despite your attempt at a trite dismissal.
No attempt at a trite dismissal, just an attempt to illustrate this is not a new concept in the region and has been used by both sides before.
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If the actions of the Crusaders is justification for ISIS behavior, then weren't the Crusaders justified by the prior behavior of Muhammad? So even if your principles apply, ISIS is acting upon guidance they get from the Quran as the original source for the jizya. They are following the teachings of Muhammad, whom they consider to have been acting on instructions from Allah. So their bad actions are based on Islam despite your attempt at a trite dismissal.
WTF are you even blabbering on about. Tie that shite together with facts and stop stringing all those iff's together.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 5:01 pm to cave canem
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cave canem
I notice you replied to some others.
Can you reply to my request? Thanks.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 5:11 pm to cave canem
quote:Really, I don't suppose you could point out where you stated that Muslims had done this before? You said this was "a play directly from the Crusaders playbook." There is no reference to any but current Muslim actions in that statement. You most definitely did not mention that the Crusaders borrowed the play from the Muslims.
No attempt at a trite dismissal, just an attempt to illustrate this is not a new concept in the region and has been used by both sides before.
quote:I understand that working from the present to the past is confusing for some. Maybe if I reversed the sequence you might better comprehend my argument. As for the facts, they were established in the preceding paragraph.
WTF are you even blabbering on about. Tie that shite together with facts and stop stringing all those iff's together.
Muslims believe Muhammad was the prophet of Allah, and Muhammad received instructions from Allah. Those instructions were codified in the Quran which is the source of Islamic laws such as the jizya. ISIS are Muslims who use Islam as justification for their actions. Thus, when ISIS assesses the jizya they are following the teachings of Muhammad as codified in the Quran. ISIS imposes the jizya because they believe it is the will of Allah, not because they were inspired by the acts of the Crusaders centuries ago.
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