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Posted on 8/8/14 at 6:18 pm to Dr Rosenrosen
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And if tulane ever gets hot again, yulman will be too small.
The stadium envisions such a possibility.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 6:20 pm to Dr Rosenrosen
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Ole miss and miss state are not playing in a 23k seat stadium. And if tulane ever gets hot again, yulman will be too small.
They'll play at Yulman. Silly to suggest otherwise- no evidence, none, that they won't. LSU and Bama won't, but they wouldn't play us in the dome in any kind of deal that is in Tulane's best interests.
It's probably too small already, although we don't know the capacity. But if the numbers about unsold tickets are true, we really need more for visitors and for locals.
Daniels is just overreacting to small issues, as most stadium opponents have done.
This post was edited on 8/8/14 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:02 pm to Overbrook
I really don't understand why Tulane insists on fielding a football program at the level of a conference USA or AAC. Why not just drop down to a lower level or entirely drop football for sports that Tulane can actually compete in? Baseball and basketball are sports they should prioritize instead of wasting millions on a sport where there's a definite ceiling on achievement. Tulane thinks of itself as a major liberal arts university in the south so why not behave more like what the Cornell, Williams, Harvard, and Princeton type schools do with their athletic programs?
Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:12 pm to Overbrook
Yulman only seats 22.6K. With SRO, it might be 26K tops. That's straight from the contractor. If Tulane would have built a 35K stadium, I would have been all in favor.
No way Ole Miss plays in that stadium.
No way Ole Miss plays in that stadium.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:14 pm to molsusports
Tulane can compete in football. TU has been hampered by poor leadership.
And I love Tulane, but we are no Harvard or Cornell.
And I love Tulane, but we are no Harvard or Cornell.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:25 pm to Dr Rosenrosen
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Tulane can compete in football.
I respectfully disagree. The football playing field has been unequal between the major schools and the midmajors and that disparity is growing more marked by the year. Do people not understand what is going on right now? Between the escalating television revenues, enormous stadiums, and facility wars I just don't see any logic in throwing more good money after bad.
IMO people who blame the Tulane leadership for an inability to compete at a higher level in football are failing to recognize the larger changes taking place in college football. My feeling for this is the same for a lot of schools but few more than Tulane. Tulane is an excellent but small and private school without facilities and a major mandate to excel in academics, not devote resources to a sport than requires tens of millions to even partially level the field.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:41 pm to rt3
Wouldn't the Tulane home side be on the southeast side and be facing northwest? If I'm remembering the stadium plans correctly, it roughly follows the existing street grid in the area, which at that point Uptown is about 20-30 degrees SSW. Doesn't seem to be too much of a problem.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:42 pm to molsusports
I don't mean compete with Alabama or USC. But we should have been able to compete in Cusa at a minimum over the past 10 years. However, our putrid leadership would not allow us to do so.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:44 pm to Dr Rosenrosen
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Rosenrosen
quote:makes sense
Tulane Fan
Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:50 pm to molsusports
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Baseball and basketball are sports they should prioritize instead of wasting millions on a sport where there's a definite ceiling on achievement.
Their ceiling is lower in basketball than football.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:50 pm to Kafka
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Dr
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Tulane Fan
Makes sense
Posted on 8/8/14 at 10:26 pm to saintsfan22
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Their ceiling is lower in basketball than football.
why would you say that? smaller private schools with serious academics can compete at the highest level in basketball. they can not in football IMO
Posted on 8/8/14 at 10:35 pm to molsusports
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why would you say that? smaller private schools with serious academics can compete at the highest level in basketball. they can not in football IMO
More regional talent in football and all the problems Tulane has in football hold true in bball but the basketball teams in the AAC will actually be legit nationally.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 10:42 pm to saintsfan22
seems to me there's a ridiculous amount of basketball talent in Louisiana were it to stay in state.
with respect to your blanket argument that all of the problems in football hold for basketball I categorically disagree. It takes no where near the same amount of investment to compete in basketball that it does in football.
the quality of the AAC doesn't matter all that much if we're talking about a potentially relevant program. if they are a real team they'll compete well, if they are a mediocre or bad team they'll fail.
with respect to your blanket argument that all of the problems in football hold for basketball I categorically disagree. It takes no where near the same amount of investment to compete in basketball that it does in football.
the quality of the AAC doesn't matter all that much if we're talking about a potentially relevant program. if they are a real team they'll compete well, if they are a mediocre or bad team they'll fail.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 10:51 pm to molsusports
The main investment they needed for football is done. They need that new arena to compete for basketball but they won't get it because they just re-did Devlin and build a football stadium.
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the quality of the AAC doesn't matter all that much if we're talking about a potentially relevant program. if they are a real team they'll compete well, if they are a mediocre or bad team they'll fail.
They're already bad and now they're moving to much much better competition.
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seems to me there's a ridiculous amount of basketball talent in Louisiana were it to stay in state.
If everybody stayed in state in both sports they'd get what LSU left behind and what LSU leaves behind in football is higher quality and quantity.
This post was edited on 8/8/14 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 8/8/14 at 11:21 pm to saintsfan22
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The main investment they needed for football is done
I think we see the issue completely differently then. They don't just need an on campus stadium with 20k seating, they need a massively upgraded stadium that seats at least four times that with support infrastructure ranging from scoreboards to wi-fi to luxury boxes to concessions. They also need massively upgraded training facilities to even think about making their football program capable of competing.
There already is a niche for Tulane baseball to be highly successful and IMO there could be a niche for Tulane basketball to be successful. There's just no mechanism by which Tulane can become relevant and stay relevant in football in today's world of college football.
Posted on 8/8/14 at 11:43 pm to molsusports
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They don't just need an on campus stadium with 20k seating, they need a massively upgraded stadium that seats at least four times that
Why on Earth do they need a stadium bigger than the Superdome? There's 6 SEC stadiums(8 in the Big XII) that aren't that big.
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There's just no mechanism by which Tulane can become relevant and stay relevant in football in today's world of college football.
Define relevant? There's gonna be 40 bowl games pretty soon. Going to one every other year ain't that hard.
This post was edited on 8/8/14 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 8/9/14 at 12:05 am to molsusports
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I respectfully disagree. The football playing field has been unequal between the major schools and the midmajors and that disparity is growing more marked by the year. Do people not understand what is going on right now? Between the escalating television revenues, enormous stadiums, and facility wars I just don't see any logic in throwing more good money after bad.
So about 60 other teams should just drop down as well, right?
Posted on 8/9/14 at 12:06 am to saintsfan22
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Why on Earth do they need a stadium bigger than the Superdome
They never will IMO because they are not capable of bringing in enough revenue to justify the modern expense of a major football program. Even were a real stadium to magically appear in place of the 20K high school stadium they've constructed their chosen location would still rob them of the ability to profit from parking and be a nightmare for large numbers of people to make it in and out of efficiently.
I don't see the road to football solvency for Tulane. The costs of coaches salaries continues to rise as the revenues of the bigger schools increase. This is fine for the programs who bring in tens of millions with television deals but catastrophic stupidity for the schools without these advantages. What is Tulane going to do to just break even (let alone profit) when it comes to football? They can't afford a proper stadium, they can't afford proper facilities, they can't afford a competitive recruiting budget, they can't afford to hire and retain top tier head and assistant coaches... the playing field is just terribly slanted against a little guy with a smaller budget
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Define relevant?
Nationally relevant. A program someone on either coast who loves the sport would consider interesting to talk about for positive reasons. That is, as good as they could be in baseball, capable of winning a national championship if things break right for them. Surely you don't argue going to a bowl means relevance. The lesser bowls often cost their schools more to attend than they generate in revenue.
They (Tulane) presently have a completely stupid and inadequate situation in full blown retard mode going on at Tulane. A 20K stadium is just a waste of space and donor money that won't do anything more than obligate them to throw more good money after bad in the future. They should completely change course and move to a lower division, stop pretending they are more like LSU than Williams and readjust their approach to their athletics.
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