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re: "Stop blaming black parents for underachieving kids"

Posted on 8/1/14 at 8:12 am to
Posted by a want
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Posted on 8/1/14 at 8:12 am to
If children who are consistently "unavailable to learn" were simply kicked out of school, a lot of the problems would be solved.

Parents who do care, work to make sure their kid is available.

Parents who dont....sorry, we will always need ditch diggers.

Plus, the classroom experience improves because now the teacher teaches rather than discipline students all the time. Kids actually get a good education!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/1/14 at 8:15 am to
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If children who are consistently "unavailable to learn" were simply kicked out of school, a lot of the problems would be solved.

i'm even-keel about this now, but have you ever been around for the rare occurrence when i get angry and go on a rant about this?

this is one of the few topics in life that i will get legit angry discussing. pieces of shite ruining an education for so many other innocents

see? i even start talking like fricking ghost rider
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 8/1/14 at 8:16 am to
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If children who are consistently "unavailable to learn" were simply kicked out of school, a lot of the problems would be solved.

Parents who do care, work to make sure their kid is available.

Parents who dont....sorry, we will always need ditch diggers.

Plus, the classroom experience improves because now the teacher teaches rather than discipline students all the time. Kids actually get a good education!


Agree totally.

Reminds me of one of my more 'famous' responses at one of our school planning meetings. Subject was "student attendance." I rose to give my ideas on improving it. I said 'The problem with student attendance is we have too much of it. If we could get rid of about two dozen kids in this school (of about 800-1000) we would be a much better school for the rest of them."

Most agreed, but said that "wasn't possible." Did get a good laugh out of it though.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:55 am to
I actually agree with you....and you are starting to sound like a republican on this.

I don't think the cultural problem behind our achievement gap is going improve without a major change in our public education system that actually helps break the cycle of poverty and failure for those that want a better life.

Kids who have parents that actually care should not be forced into failure factories filled with kids and teachers who don't care at all. A dangerous environment like that is useless as an educational institution and does nothing but continue the cycle of failure, violence, and poverty.

These cultural problems will not be solved until we can break the cycle of failure. Your zip code should not hinder your ability go find a good environment for learning. It's the civil rights issue of our time IMO.

School choice advocates have, IMO, part of the solution. I think charters and magnet programs are also critical for urban schools.

Special interests and teacher unions fight any effort to give those parents and students the power of choice, and most democrats an some republicans will back the status quo for that reason. Education reform is going to be a long, hard road.
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