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re: The ATL Thread: Making Deals edition

Posted on 7/31/14 at 4:17 pm to
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
8606 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

Caritini has the upside of a utility man.


Eh, if he sticks at catcher he has the upside of solid major league starter.
Posted by Patron Saint
Member since Jul 2013
4195 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 4:17 pm to
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I don't know what y'all see in our rotation, but I think we are pretty damn horrible

Seventh best starters' ERA in baseball at 3.33

quote:

Minor and Harang give up so many runs that it almost wouldn't matter if the Braves put up 5-6 runs.


Harang has a 3.43 ERA. In July it's 2.65.

Again, the pitching is not the problem. They're pitching with absolutely no margin for error because the offense is terrible, so any mistake by a pitcher is magnified.
This post was edited on 7/31/14 at 4:19 pm
Posted by USAF Hart
My House
Member since Jun 2011
10273 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 4:21 pm to
Harang was amazing in his first 5 starts. Since then he has held a team to 0 runs one time. He's held a team to 1 earned run 3 times (including the shutout). Aside from that, it's been twos, threes, and fours. It's also not so much about giving up the earned runs over the course of the game it's the fact that he does it so early in the game. Now I agree that our bats are not where they should be, but it's hard to really want to fight for a guy when you are down 2-0 coming out of the gate. Too many things are going wrong for this team right now. I wanted more of a shakeup than what we saw. At least we still have time through the end of August to make another move.
Posted by GeauxTGRZ
PTal
Member since Oct 2005
4771 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 4:28 pm to
Looking for a good Braves bar in Memphis tonight.

All Cardinals fans this way.
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24866 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 4:35 pm to
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Looking for a good Braves bar in Memphis tonight.



No clue about it being a braves bar, but the flying saucer is awesome if you like beer.
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
18341 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 4:40 pm to
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I wanted more of a shakeup than what we saw.


Can't really shake things up with big moves when you have nothing to give up.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40965 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:40 pm to
Caratini will not stick at catcher. The Braves had no use for him even if he somehow does. Future utility guy/DH.

The Braves did about as well as they could have. Bonifacio fits in well on this team. Obviously Miller would have been better than Russell, but the return the Red Sox got from Baltimore for Miller was absolutely ridiculous. Not even close to worth it.

As others have said, there is almost no flexibility on this roster. The bench needs serious improvement, but I don't see anything else they can do.

If Schafer is DFA'd tomorrow the Braves did about as well as they could have this month. We have no cap flexibility and an extremely shallow talent pool in the system.
This post was edited on 7/31/14 at 5:41 pm
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:47 pm to
I use to love Emilio! We got more speed, going to steal more bases.. plus he switch hits right?
Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
2333 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

. How about our fricking starting pitching is pathetic


Posted by au21tigers
Thursday
Member since Nov 2009
12548 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:17 pm to
frick a Phil but put it on the Gnats
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24866 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:19 pm to
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au21tigers


Got the tix today. Thanks again buddy
Posted by crimsonian
Florida
Member since Jun 2012
7374 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:20 pm to
Phil's are spanking them right now, but Phillies did have to go to bullpen early. Need to watch late innings.
Posted by au21tigers
Thursday
Member since Nov 2009
12548 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:20 pm to
Glad you got them
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
32026 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

The Braves seem to always make horrible deals

It's almost painful to be a fan sometimes (and I consider myself one)... They always pull the rug out from under you.


I know the deal we made was far from blockbuster, but as a trade itself I don't see how it's horrible at all...

We have a guy at catcher now who is fricking smashing the ball, and a future great catcher who is 23 yrs old, Caratini was likely never going to play for us in the big leagues, we upgraded out bench, and got a lefty reliever.

So if you want to be disappointed that we didn't make a splash fine, but the trade itself is fine
Posted by crimsonian
Florida
Member since Jun 2012
7374 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:30 pm to
The ultimate question is will this help us win in the playoffs? If yes, good trade. If not, could this guy get a better return a couple years down the road? If so, bad deal.
This post was edited on 7/31/14 at 7:40 pm
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
32026 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:32 pm to
Bench bats are important in the playoffs, so I would think yes, I'd much rather see Boni off the bench than Schafer.

I don't really know much about the lefty we got, so I dk if it helps us or not
Posted by crimsonian
Florida
Member since Jun 2012
7374 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:36 pm to
Time will tell.
Posted by au21tigers
Thursday
Member since Nov 2009
12548 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:38 pm to
Stats are for fools.
Posted by crimsonian
Florida
Member since Jun 2012
7374 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:39 pm to
Tell me about it.

I think the pitcher has a negative WAR, so we are screwed.
This post was edited on 7/31/14 at 7:41 pm
Posted by au21tigers
Thursday
Member since Nov 2009
12548 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:42 pm to
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