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Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:37 pm to imraged
I'm still waiting for the LeBron that single handedly destroyed the Pistons in the Eastern Conference playoffs to come back.
LeBron without a doubt is a better athlete and all around ball player than MJ. But MJ had that intangible that he was going to beat you and that he was always in control on the court.
LeBron without a doubt is a better athlete and all around ball player than MJ. But MJ had that intangible that he was going to beat you and that he was always in control on the court.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:47 pm to WalkingTurtles
quote:
I'm still waiting for the LeBron that single handedly destroyed the Pistons in the Eastern Conference playoffs to come back.
Game 6 Celtics
Game 6 Spurs
Game 7 Spurs
Game 5 Thunder
Game 4 Thunder
If that's not good enough for you (game 6 vs Celtics in particular) I don't know what to say.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:59 pm to imraged
Of course WG Tiger had to come in and derail this thread.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:05 am to jg8623
I think people forget that KD is still really young. KD is pretty much right up there with LeBron when he was 25.
KD@25
.503/.391/.873
32.0 ppg
7.4 rpg
5.5 apg
2.0 s+bpg
29.8 PER
123 ortg
104 drtg
19.2 WS
LJ@25
.503/.333/.767
29.7 ppg
7.3 rpg
8.6 apg
2.6 s+bpg
31.1 PER
121 ortg
102 drtg
18.5 WS
KD@25
.503/.391/.873
32.0 ppg
7.4 rpg
5.5 apg
2.0 s+bpg
29.8 PER
123 ortg
104 drtg
19.2 WS
LJ@25
.503/.333/.767
29.7 ppg
7.3 rpg
8.6 apg
2.6 s+bpg
31.1 PER
121 ortg
102 drtg
18.5 WS
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 12:06 am
Posted on 7/23/14 at 6:36 am to imraged
quote:
Unless you're ignoring everything besides accolades LeBron passed up Kobe a couple of years ago.
Please elaborate on how LJ has passed Kobe up.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 7:42 am to aib799
quote:
As far as Lebron, he has a ways to go to challenge Kobe's status
Posted on 7/23/14 at 7:44 am to jg8623
quote:It's pretty apparent that folks will never learn at this point.
Did anyone learn from last time with Lebron? At 25 everyone was saying Lebron would never get a ring and was a choke artist and scared of the big moment....
The funny part about those people saying "he'll never win/he chokes/scared of the moment" blah blah blah, instead of admitting they were wrong when Lebron did win, they just go with "He figured it out."
Posted on 7/23/14 at 7:58 am to boXerrumble
The greatest ever and the closest thing since.
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 8:00 am
Posted on 7/23/14 at 8:03 am to TigerBait2008
quote:
.and well Kobe isn't even top 5...
Meh. I put him right at 5. He is quite comfortably in the Top 10.
ETA: Not directed at anyone in particular, but if you disagree that Kobe is Top 10 then you are just a biased hater. When Magic Johnson and Jerry West call you the greatest Laker ever... the greatest player of the greatest basketball franchise ever... you're in the Top 10.
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 8:14 am
Posted on 7/23/14 at 8:16 am to WalkingTurtles
quote:
LeBron without a doubt is a better athlete and all around ball player than MJ.
More physically gifted, not a better ball player.
Michael is the GOAT and Lebron will never take his spot. Sorry that upsets people
Posted on 7/23/14 at 8:17 am to WG_Tiger23
quote:
You can argue he is better than Kobe. Not MJ.
I actually wonder how many people who talk about Jordan actually saw him play. I'm not saying he's not great, but it seems like he's reached this Chuck Norris type status.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 8:17 am to shel311
quote:
he funny part about those people saying "he'll never win/he chokes/scared of the moment" blah blah blah, instead of admitting they were wrong when Lebron did win, they just go with "He figured it out."
Losing three finals when you are supposed to be the Basketball Gods gift to mortals says a lot.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 8:37 am to aib799
quote:INDIVDUAL statistics for each player
Please elaborate on how LJ has passed Kobe up.
Lebron: 27.5ppg, 7.2 RPG, 6.9 apg, 49.7% FG 4 MVP
kOBE: 25.5ppg, 4.3 RPG, 4.8 apg, 45.4% FG, 1MVP
Bolded statistics are for the leader in that category, AKA Lebron leads in everyone of them
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 8:38 am
Posted on 7/23/14 at 8:39 am to WG_Tiger23
quote:Yeh, Lebron never should have lost those games of 1 on 1 he played in the finals......
Losing three finals when you are supposed to be the Basketball Gods gift to mortals says a lot.
ETA: Putting the Dallas loss on him is fine with me. But to put the two vs the Spurs shows you have no right to talk sports, and you should be in the kitchen making sandwiches
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 8:40 am
Posted on 7/23/14 at 8:41 am to lsupride87
Ok.
Regardless, he isn't better than MJ. No reason to go 18 pages arguing something so clear cut.
I actually like Lebron a lot more since his letter he wrote.
Regardless, he isn't better than MJ. No reason to go 18 pages arguing something so clear cut.
I actually like Lebron a lot more since his letter he wrote.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 8:44 am to WG_Tiger23
quote:Of course he isnt. I dont think anyone has really argued that(except for your occasional moron). I just think it is nuts for that one guy who thinks he has a ways to go to pass Kobe. He has already passed Kobe by a good bit
Regardless, he isn't better than MJ. No reason to go 18 pages arguing something so clear cut.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 8:47 am to Suntiger
quote:
I actually wonder how many people who talk about Jordan actually saw him play.
I saw him play in college and throughout his NBA career. He would kick Chuck Norris' arse. If you weren't around to see him play, you wouldn't understand. It was simply a given that he would take over big games and there wasn't a damn thing the opposition could do about it. Unstoppable. He always dictated the terms.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 8:51 am to genuineLSUtiger
quote:Except for when the pistons were kicking his shite in.....
He always dictated the terms.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 8:53 am to lsupride87
quote:
I just think it is nuts for that one guy who thinks he has a ways to go to pass Kobe. He has already passed Kobe by a good bit
Please post the career totals numbers for each player instead of their averages. Also, include Titles won in your analysis. Then we can see how "nuts" it is to think LeBron hasn't passed him yet.
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