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Posted on 4/24/16 at 7:56 am to prettycountry
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Catching up my reading and went look at LSU roster. Every corner is 6'2" 6'3" plus some safeties and most of his Wr. Rb all 6ft 225 lbs.
I don't want to accuse anyone of changing stats, and I haven't paid attention to LSU's recruiting, but every single WR that plays is 6'3 - 6'5", every starting LB is 6'3" - 6'4", and every single CB, SS, and FS that would play is 6'4" - 6'5". While not impossible, I find the probability of this happening organically through recruiting to be highly unlikely.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 9:13 am to Wildabeast
From everything I've read. Weight doesn't matter in this game but height does. From what I read height triggers different animations. And yes I have a 6'8" DE but he was that way when I recruited him.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 9:45 am to prettycountry
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And yes I have a 6'8" DE but he was that way when I recruited him.
There are always a few outliers
I have a WR who was an athlete and he was 6'5 230ish and could have played like 5 positions. I should have put him at TE and he may move there next year, but I was literally desperate for WR's. The chance of having EVERY player of this magnitude is extremely unlikely.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 9:47 am to peaster68
Peaster, how do you like your chances of getting that defensive tackle we're both in on. I think it's all yours because the game scheduled his visit for week 11 before I took control of the team, so I doubt I'll get him on campus which really sucks. Instant starter for me.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 9:54 am to cincyykid
With your visit being after mine, you will probably jump me if he doesn't commit by Week 11.
Just got my game in. Believe this was the first time that I have played at Colorado since I left. Went in and took it to the Buffs 62-20.
Just got my game in. Believe this was the first time that I have played at Colorado since I left. Went in and took it to the Buffs 62-20.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 10:31 am to prettycountry
Awhile back somebody brought up the question about changing the height and weight, but nobody had an issue with it then. They read that all of that didn't matter. The ratings were the important thing. I don't like the idea of changing any of that height and weight stuff, because it is unrealistic.
It's kind of hard to say oh you can't do that now after nobody wanted to speak up then about it. To be honest how would you ever prove if someone was editing those characteristics, unless most of the team was ideal weight and height.
I'm not defending him, if he did do this. What I'm basically saying it wasn't a problem until this week and nobody spoke up at the appropriate time.PC has played him a few times and won every one of them, I played him, WILDA played him, Crzy, and GP I think played him, and we all won our games against him. I'm sure coaching points do contribute to some of it, but in the end the core guys that played him won, so it wasn't a problem at the time. Obviously, someone recalls the game between Butt and TB differently. It's one man's word against another and there isn't much I can do. If it happened multiple times with other users then sure we can handle the situation.
When a question gets asked, if only 1 or 2 guys respond and they say it doesn't matter then we have nothing to debate. This message board is to talk about the game strategies, ideas, rules and anything else. If you don't like something or want to do something different the platform is here to say or do. Very few bring up questions or ideas, but I'm open to whatever you guys want as a league, whether I like the idea or not.
Crzy asked a question the other day about the point rule and I don't think anyone responded, except me. It's sort of like voting in elections. If you don't vote or speak up , then you really dont have the right to complain about anything.
The board is always here to use and communicate with. It's up to us to use this resource to discuss and make this a better league either by discussion or just being more involved.
Sorry so long
It's kind of hard to say oh you can't do that now after nobody wanted to speak up then about it. To be honest how would you ever prove if someone was editing those characteristics, unless most of the team was ideal weight and height.
I'm not defending him, if he did do this. What I'm basically saying it wasn't a problem until this week and nobody spoke up at the appropriate time.PC has played him a few times and won every one of them, I played him, WILDA played him, Crzy, and GP I think played him, and we all won our games against him. I'm sure coaching points do contribute to some of it, but in the end the core guys that played him won, so it wasn't a problem at the time. Obviously, someone recalls the game between Butt and TB differently. It's one man's word against another and there isn't much I can do. If it happened multiple times with other users then sure we can handle the situation.
When a question gets asked, if only 1 or 2 guys respond and they say it doesn't matter then we have nothing to debate. This message board is to talk about the game strategies, ideas, rules and anything else. If you don't like something or want to do something different the platform is here to say or do. Very few bring up questions or ideas, but I'm open to whatever you guys want as a league, whether I like the idea or not.
Crzy asked a question the other day about the point rule and I don't think anyone responded, except me. It's sort of like voting in elections. If you don't vote or speak up , then you really dont have the right to complain about anything.
The board is always here to use and communicate with. It's up to us to use this resource to discuss and make this a better league either by discussion or just being more involved.
Sorry so long
Posted on 4/24/16 at 10:40 am to peaster68
Just got my game in. Game was in full on F-you mode for the first half making utsa's secondary look like the Seahawks, so I had to lean on the ground game to start the 2nd half. Come away with the W 42-21 but it wasn't pretty.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 11:24 am to LSU999
I don't think changing heights is kosher. Weight I don't care about, but I feel like height can have a tangible effect.
Would love to raise the scoring cap.
Would love to raise the scoring cap.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 11:58 am to Wildabeast
I wasn't complaining, I really don't care. That's the 3rd game I've played against another user in roughly 3 years...and the opposing team was FAR superior to mine. Considering it came down to a questionable call (one man's word vs another...but yea) I feel alright about where my team is.
I will say I have no idea how having a 6'4 corner instead of a 5'9 wouldn't be a benefit, but it's whatever. I played about as poorly as I could have and did not adjust at all.
Playing against users is just like real football. Everyone has tendencies and you have to learn those tendencies. He had a 99 QB with 99 speed and just rolls out every single time. I tried to spread my line out and spy on him. But my linebackers and even safeties aren't remotely fast enough. If I play him in the future, I will have to utilize corner blitzes. That's part of the fun of playing different users and having a core group. You learn from your games and move on.
I will say I have no idea how having a 6'4 corner instead of a 5'9 wouldn't be a benefit, but it's whatever. I played about as poorly as I could have and did not adjust at all.
Playing against users is just like real football. Everyone has tendencies and you have to learn those tendencies. He had a 99 QB with 99 speed and just rolls out every single time. I tried to spread my line out and spy on him. But my linebackers and even safeties aren't remotely fast enough. If I play him in the future, I will have to utilize corner blitzes. That's part of the fun of playing different users and having a core group. You learn from your games and move on.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 12:48 pm to LSUButt
Or just put your ends to contain and make him throw inside the pocket
Posted on 4/24/16 at 1:47 pm to LSU999
I changed the weights of my players when I had ISU and also did that extensive test with heights and weights that didn't prove any consistent results. I think heights matter for animations so I didn't change them. I would bump my players by 10 pounds or so every offseason to simulate them going through the summer weight program. It never changed anything.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 2:03 pm to LSU999
I agree with you 9s. I remember it being brought up, and if I remember correctly you or someone else even tested it. I say we should definitely avoid changing height and weight. While nobody would possibly know if they are being changed or recruited that way, we are just gonna have to go on the honor system from now moving forward. Would be very hard to track all that anyway.
As for the point rule, I didn't respond cause I don't really care, buy ifrom you want my opinion I think the rule should stay in place. There needs to at least be some sort of cap. The final scores will affect coaching style, coaching prestige, team prestige, rankings, etc. If new people with bad teams join and score 35 points a game, meanwhile all the vets are scoring 100 per game, it is an advantage towards the vets. Probably a very little advantage, but an advantage. Plus there are many ways to take advantage of the CPU that would lead to ridiculous margins of victory. If you score 70, you should win. If you want to win by a large margin, play better defense. Just my thoughts.
ETA:nevermind, it was Roman that did all those tests. I think there isn't a huge difference in 1 on 1 matchups. However, like I said then, I just think it has to be significantly harder to move the ball throwing/running against an entire defense of 6'10 guys vs 5'1 guys. Windows to throw are tighter and running lanes are smaller.
As for the point rule, I didn't respond cause I don't really care, buy ifrom you want my opinion I think the rule should stay in place. There needs to at least be some sort of cap. The final scores will affect coaching style, coaching prestige, team prestige, rankings, etc. If new people with bad teams join and score 35 points a game, meanwhile all the vets are scoring 100 per game, it is an advantage towards the vets. Probably a very little advantage, but an advantage. Plus there are many ways to take advantage of the CPU that would lead to ridiculous margins of victory. If you score 70, you should win. If you want to win by a large margin, play better defense. Just my thoughts.
ETA:nevermind, it was Roman that did all those tests. I think there isn't a huge difference in 1 on 1 matchups. However, like I said then, I just think it has to be significantly harder to move the ball throwing/running against an entire defense of 6'10 guys vs 5'1 guys. Windows to throw are tighter and running lanes are smaller.
This post was edited on 4/24/16 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 4/24/16 at 2:33 pm to GeauxPack81
In all serious, the 70 OT cap is a good thing, for all of the reasons stated so eloquently by GP. 
Posted on 4/24/16 at 2:37 pm to cincyykid
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Or just put your ends to contain and make him throw inside the pocket
When your DE's are 70 speed vs a 99 speed QB that's literally impossible. Not to mention they also have an elite running back so if you contain every play they gash it up the middle. But again. 99 speed>>70 speed
Posted on 4/24/16 at 4:00 pm to LSUButt
I faced the same exact problem with defending the QB roll outs. I think the only way to defend it would be to put DBs as OLBs and have them play QB scrambles aggressively. If your opponent uses the edges, add speed on defense. If they play power, add strength and block shedding to the field. Even then, their coaching points will be much higher so you'll have to be smart about your play calling and guess what they will run and commit your defense to it.
9s shut me down once by committing to the run on almost every play and my OL was blown up. When I faced PC once, I was able to affect his DE play by always running away from him and adjusting my pass protection towards him. On defense against Georgia I was disguising my cover 3 defense constantly and forcing him to throw into coverage.
Even if you do all of that, you're still going to be worse than everyone in terms of personnel and will get exploited by better athletes. It doesn't help that the sliders we use are heavily stacked in the AI's favor.
9s shut me down once by committing to the run on almost every play and my OL was blown up. When I faced PC once, I was able to affect his DE play by always running away from him and adjusting my pass protection towards him. On defense against Georgia I was disguising my cover 3 defense constantly and forcing him to throw into coverage.
Even if you do all of that, you're still going to be worse than everyone in terms of personnel and will get exploited by better athletes. It doesn't help that the sliders we use are heavily stacked in the AI's favor.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 4:27 pm to HailFacer
Hail, I don't think I did run commit that much. I might have blitzed a good bit, but run commit kills me.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 5:57 pm to LSU999
I don't care about the point cap because I will never get 70. I rarely run the same play twice against the CPU and do lots of just dives up the middle for little yardage.
And as far as CB's at OLB goes..I could, but I had no idea what I would be facing so it was very difficult to adjust mid game. Regardless, I did an excellent job on defense. 5/22 passing is great. Just gave up a 100 yard run then gave up a 25 yard run late to let him score to get the ball back.
And as far as CB's at OLB goes..I could, but I had no idea what I would be facing so it was very difficult to adjust mid game. Regardless, I did an excellent job on defense. 5/22 passing is great. Just gave up a 100 yard run then gave up a 25 yard run late to let him score to get the ball back.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 6:42 pm to LSU999
Well everyone swarmed the interior at once pretty damn well
Either way it was a good plan
Either way it was a good plan
Posted on 4/24/16 at 6:48 pm to LSUButt
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He had a 99 QB with 99 speed and just rolls out every single time. I tried to spread my line out and spy on him. But my linebackers and even safeties aren't remotely fast enough. If I play him in the future, I will have to utilize corner blitzes.
Why didn't you? My defense has a feild day when I play people who roll out with their QB every play
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