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re: Tony Dungey has touched the third rail

Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by notiger1997
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:38 pm to
Yeah, but I bet he would have had no problem drafting Johnny football though, who is far worse of a person than Sam.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:43 pm to
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Yeah, but I bet he would have had no problem drafting Johnny football though, who is far worse of a person than Sam.


One of these is a Pro grade football player the other is an ok player who happens to be gay.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:51 pm to
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Yeah, but I bet he would have had no problem drafting Johnny football though, who is far worse of a person than Sam.


May be a worse person, but Manziel is a better player. However, look how far Manziel fell in the draft? I don't doubt that a good reasoning for that is his off the field antics.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:54 pm to
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Yeah, but I bet he would have had no problem drafting Johnny football though, who is far worse of a person than Sam


And Manziel is a far better football prospect than Sam. The NFL is a results oriented business. If Sam had the ability of Jadaveon Clowney, the "gay" issue would not have been that big for NFL GMs. The reality is that Sam is a marginal NFL prospect whose sexual orientation brings in a lot of attention from people who care little to nothing about football. The burden of that extra attention that a coach/organization has to deal with likely doesn't = the on field benefit to the team. I understand why people would share Dungey's opinion.

Through ZERO fault of his own, Sam has the potential to disrupt a team. If he makes the Rams roster then he is looked at as a hero and will attract a ton of media attention for a guy who is really just a marginal player (See Tim Tebow) The Rams have a lot of very good DL, and I could certainly see them getting a bit perturbed at a backup getting the attention of a superstar.

If he is cut, then the questions/accusations from everyone outside of football will be that he was cut because he was gay. The Rams will be in an unenviable position of having to justify a purely football decision to throngs of rebel-rousers who do not, cannot, and will not believe the decision had nothing to do with the guys sexual orientation.

JM may be a pain in the arse, but he also brings the potential of helping a team win big. The potential reward outweighs the potential burden. The equation is just the opposite in Sam's case
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 12:55 pm
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:28 pm to
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Yeah, but I bet he would have had no problem drafting Johnny football though, who is far worse of a person than Sam.


what has jff done that makes him a bad person? ... do not use his propensity to use the media spotlight as there is no difference between his use of it and sam's ...
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:32 pm to
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Yeah, but I bet he would have had no problem drafting Johnny football though, who is far worse of a person than Sam.


How do you figure that?

Johnny Manziel is also a much better player than Michael Sam. So there's that.....

Good for Dungy for being honest. I wouldn't risk having my season being a circus on a 7th round pick that may not pan out.

Has nothing to do with homosexuality. It has everything to do with that individual possessing a persona that will bring enormous amounts of circus attention to my team/locker room.

On paper, Manziel is worth that risk because he looks to have a higher chance to succeed.

Most (if not all) 7th round picks are not worth that risk.
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 1:33 pm
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 2:13 pm to
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Yeah, but I bet he would have had no problem drafting Johnny football though, who is far worse of a person than Sam.


You might lose that bet. My guess is Tony would also not be interested in players with character issues in general.
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