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Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:43 pm to notiger1997
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Yeah, but I bet he would have had no problem drafting Johnny football though, who is far worse of a person than Sam.
One of these is a Pro grade football player the other is an ok player who happens to be gay.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:51 pm to notiger1997
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Yeah, but I bet he would have had no problem drafting Johnny football though, who is far worse of a person than Sam.
May be a worse person, but Manziel is a better player. However, look how far Manziel fell in the draft? I don't doubt that a good reasoning for that is his off the field antics.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:54 pm to notiger1997
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Yeah, but I bet he would have had no problem drafting Johnny football though, who is far worse of a person than Sam
And Manziel is a far better football prospect than Sam. The NFL is a results oriented business. If Sam had the ability of Jadaveon Clowney, the "gay" issue would not have been that big for NFL GMs. The reality is that Sam is a marginal NFL prospect whose sexual orientation brings in a lot of attention from people who care little to nothing about football. The burden of that extra attention that a coach/organization has to deal with likely doesn't = the on field benefit to the team. I understand why people would share Dungey's opinion.
Through ZERO fault of his own, Sam has the potential to disrupt a team. If he makes the Rams roster then he is looked at as a hero and will attract a ton of media attention for a guy who is really just a marginal player (See Tim Tebow) The Rams have a lot of very good DL, and I could certainly see them getting a bit perturbed at a backup getting the attention of a superstar.
If he is cut, then the questions/accusations from everyone outside of football will be that he was cut because he was gay. The Rams will be in an unenviable position of having to justify a purely football decision to throngs of rebel-rousers who do not, cannot, and will not believe the decision had nothing to do with the guys sexual orientation.
JM may be a pain in the arse, but he also brings the potential of helping a team win big. The potential reward outweighs the potential burden. The equation is just the opposite in Sam's case
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:28 pm to notiger1997
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Yeah, but I bet he would have had no problem drafting Johnny football though, who is far worse of a person than Sam.
what has jff done that makes him a bad person? ... do not use his propensity to use the media spotlight as there is no difference between his use of it and sam's ...
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:32 pm to notiger1997
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Yeah, but I bet he would have had no problem drafting Johnny football though, who is far worse of a person than Sam.
How do you figure that?
Johnny Manziel is also a much better player than Michael Sam. So there's that.....
Good for Dungy for being honest. I wouldn't risk having my season being a circus on a 7th round pick that may not pan out.
Has nothing to do with homosexuality. It has everything to do with that individual possessing a persona that will bring enormous amounts of circus attention to my team/locker room.
On paper, Manziel is worth that risk because he looks to have a higher chance to succeed.
Most (if not all) 7th round picks are not worth that risk.
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 7/21/14 at 2:13 pm to notiger1997
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Yeah, but I bet he would have had no problem drafting Johnny football though, who is far worse of a person than Sam.
You might lose that bet. My guess is Tony would also not be interested in players with character issues in general.
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