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re: For travelers re: European trip
Posted on 7/17/14 at 5:18 pm to genro
Posted on 7/17/14 at 5:18 pm to genro
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I get that, but there are still great cities in Europe that are great for walking and are not Americanized and are super cheap. Croatia and Montenegro are having unprecedented tourism for that very reason.
we did croatia in 2006. We wanted to do montenegro but ran out of time. Its on our list, but we will wait until we can do 2-3 months, then do montenegro and work our way east. I really want to do albania.
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If you want to feel like Indiana Jones. Go to India. It's wild
India was crazy. It was sensory overload.
The most foreign was japan. I felt like I was in blade runner.
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 5:19 pm
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Posted on 7/17/14 at 5:21 pm to Hawkeye95
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The most foreign was japan. I felt like I was in blade runner.
I'm curious if I'd like it there and will get there someday. I want to do Thailand, Cambodia etc first. No real interest in South Korea.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 5:22 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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No real interest in South Korea.
If you've played Starcraft, then you already know everything you need to learn about the South Korean people.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 5:27 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
thailand was awesome, didn't make it to cambodia though which is a regret, b.c I don't see us going back there for some time.
I did a month in india, didn't get sick at all. I mean, i had the runs the entire time but not like SICK. Go to thailand and BOOM first day, out for a week plus. Luckily we had an integrated toilet and shower, so I could run the shower while I vomited and pooped! I did miss our trek to laos though, you hiked to laos then river rafted back to chaing mai.
i want to go everywhere, but s. korea is at the bottom of my list. I just haven't heard good things about it.
next up is indonesia/malayasia.
I did a month in india, didn't get sick at all. I mean, i had the runs the entire time but not like SICK. Go to thailand and BOOM first day, out for a week plus. Luckily we had an integrated toilet and shower, so I could run the shower while I vomited and pooped! I did miss our trek to laos though, you hiked to laos then river rafted back to chaing mai.
i want to go everywhere, but s. korea is at the bottom of my list. I just haven't heard good things about it.
next up is indonesia/malayasia.
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 7/17/14 at 5:35 pm to Hawkeye95
That sounds awful.
I've been looking at Ragoon/Bagan too. That area of the world is just cool.
Oh Koreans and their starcraft. So strange
I've been looking at Ragoon/Bagan too. That area of the world is just cool.
Oh Koreans and their starcraft. So strange
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 7/17/14 at 5:36 pm to Books
We did Paris for a few days, took a train to Dijon (stayed for a few days) then rented a car and drove south to Provence. Stayed there a few days then drove to the coast to hit up Cannes, Eze, and Monaco over a few days. Drove back to Dijon then took the train back to Paris for stays in two more areas, and celebrate our tenth anniversary. Pretty fricking epic. I didn't list the day trips we took to the little cities but those were the highlights for sure. Trains go to big cities, but you miss a ton staying on that route.
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 7/17/14 at 5:39 pm to Books
I did Swiss alps, Innsbruck, bavaria including Munich and Prague in 10 days and never felt rushed. You can easily add Venice/northern Italy for a 14 day trip.
You get country side, mountains and cities all in one shot.
You get country side, mountains and cities all in one shot.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 5:41 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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I've been looking at Ragoon/Bagan too. That area of the world is just cool.
we met a couple that spent a month in burma. they said it was awesome, the problem was there wren't really hotels. but you could stay at someone's house for like $1/day. no places to eat out either. But again, some old lady would cook you a meal for $.50.
we averaged about $20/day in thailand for a couple. They said they were getting buy for under $5.
this makes me want to travel. frick you OP.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 5:41 pm to Hawkeye95
Spent a month in Europe last year. Dublin first and a must see, then Leeds which is a beautiful countryside, Oslo which is nice, Saint Petersburg, excellent, Prussia, pass, Berlin definitely, Geneva, too expensive yet beautiful, Leipzig, not quite recovered from Cold War, Amsterdam is just cool as heck, and finally London.
Must say London, Berlin, Amsterdam, St. Petersburg are must sees.
Oslo and Geneva ok
Leipzig and Prussia pass
Must say London, Berlin, Amsterdam, St. Petersburg are must sees.
Oslo and Geneva ok
Leipzig and Prussia pass
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:31 pm to lynxcat
Here is my take. 14 days is a ton of time if you are efficient and want to see a lot of places. You will need to invest in a rail pass and you may need to take a flight depending on if there is a place that you "have to go" that is geographically separated from others.
The first thing to do is start with a list of every place in Europe you might even want to consider.
Naturally, you end up creating geographically based options. The key is to travel at night so that you are not losing time for transportation. Here are some that come to mind.
London-Paris: These two are natural because the high-speed rail makes them easy to connect and they are hubs to fly into and out of. You can go a million directions from Paris (south through France or east through Belgium and the Netherlands would be most likely). You can see both of these places in about 5 days if you want.
Madrid-Barcelona-south of France-northern Italy: This all connects rather easily. Doing a cruise is a pretty easy option to see a bunch of these places (sans Madrid).
Milan-Florence-Rome-Napoli-southern Italian coast: Going down Italy is as simple as it gets. HOWEVER, it is a bottleneck. You don't want to waste time going south to Rome only to then double-back to go see other parts of Europe. The best thing to do here is fly out of FCO (Rome) once you get that far south and hit a completely new area of the continent. This is what I did....flew from FCO to Copenhagen. 2 hour flight and was in a totally new area for $100.
Belgium-Netherlands-Cologne-Hamburg-Berlin-Munich: This all connects...Germany is the easiest place to get around in Europe (although a little spread out). Night trains between Berlin and Munich make this a breeze.
You then have the Prague-Vienna-Budapest option. These are ~4 hr train rides each but you are seeing a new country every time you get there. I decided against this because it was just too much time to commit to the train but if you really want to spend time in those places then it is very doable (but limits what else you can see).
If you want to see the most cities then here is my take:
Italy is super easy and you get a lot of variety of Tuscany and big cities (Florence and Rome). Great mix of history and relaxation. Beautiful coast lines.
Belgium and Switzerland let you see a lot of places all at once. You can literally take the train for 30 minutes and be in another major/semi-major city. I've traveled both of these extensively and I really like that the locations are all really close to each other. The Netherlands are easily accessible from Belgium just like Cologne, Dortmund, and some other northwestern German cities. Lille France is right on the border of Belgium too.
If it was my first trip to Europe, then I would take a route like this:
Fly into Florence-Rome...fly to Copenhagen and then take the ferry to Hamburg, catch a soccer match at Dortmund, then on to Brussels (check out it Antwerp and maybe another Belgian city), train to Amsterdam and end the trip in Paris. You would see a bunch of cultures and geographically it is pretty easy. (Some on the board will think this is crazy, but this is very possible).
The first thing to do is start with a list of every place in Europe you might even want to consider.
Naturally, you end up creating geographically based options. The key is to travel at night so that you are not losing time for transportation. Here are some that come to mind.
London-Paris: These two are natural because the high-speed rail makes them easy to connect and they are hubs to fly into and out of. You can go a million directions from Paris (south through France or east through Belgium and the Netherlands would be most likely). You can see both of these places in about 5 days if you want.
Madrid-Barcelona-south of France-northern Italy: This all connects rather easily. Doing a cruise is a pretty easy option to see a bunch of these places (sans Madrid).
Milan-Florence-Rome-Napoli-southern Italian coast: Going down Italy is as simple as it gets. HOWEVER, it is a bottleneck. You don't want to waste time going south to Rome only to then double-back to go see other parts of Europe. The best thing to do here is fly out of FCO (Rome) once you get that far south and hit a completely new area of the continent. This is what I did....flew from FCO to Copenhagen. 2 hour flight and was in a totally new area for $100.
Belgium-Netherlands-Cologne-Hamburg-Berlin-Munich: This all connects...Germany is the easiest place to get around in Europe (although a little spread out). Night trains between Berlin and Munich make this a breeze.
You then have the Prague-Vienna-Budapest option. These are ~4 hr train rides each but you are seeing a new country every time you get there. I decided against this because it was just too much time to commit to the train but if you really want to spend time in those places then it is very doable (but limits what else you can see).
If you want to see the most cities then here is my take:
Italy is super easy and you get a lot of variety of Tuscany and big cities (Florence and Rome). Great mix of history and relaxation. Beautiful coast lines.
Belgium and Switzerland let you see a lot of places all at once. You can literally take the train for 30 minutes and be in another major/semi-major city. I've traveled both of these extensively and I really like that the locations are all really close to each other. The Netherlands are easily accessible from Belgium just like Cologne, Dortmund, and some other northwestern German cities. Lille France is right on the border of Belgium too.
If it was my first trip to Europe, then I would take a route like this:
Fly into Florence-Rome...fly to Copenhagen and then take the ferry to Hamburg, catch a soccer match at Dortmund, then on to Brussels (check out it Antwerp and maybe another Belgian city), train to Amsterdam and end the trip in Paris. You would see a bunch of cultures and geographically it is pretty easy. (Some on the board will think this is crazy, but this is very possible).
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:45 pm to lynxcat
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(Some on the board will think this is crazy, but this is very possible).
When I was younger I would do the 3 to 4 days per city and maybe even 1 or 2 days in a small place like Ljubliana or Split. It is doable, you will get tired and cranky and fight with your SO if they are with you. But if you want to see a bunch of places, do it.
Now that I'm older, I stay at least a week in a city and sometimes 2 weeks. We rent an apt. and live like locals...grocery shop, do laundry and wonder around non tourist areas. I really love traveling this way.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 2:14 pm to Zappas Stache
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When I was younger I would do the 3 to 4 days per city and maybe even 1 or 2 days in a small place like Ljubliana or Split. It is doable, you will get tired and cranky and fight with your SO if they are with you. But if you want to see a bunch of places, do it.
I'm 25 and did this with a brother, not SO. I think it would be more of a challenge with a SO than a friend/close family.
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Now that I'm older, I stay at least a week in a city and sometimes 2 weeks. We rent an apt. and live like locals...grocery shop, do laundry and wonder around non tourist areas. I really love traveling this way.
This would bore me...I don't get to travel to that part of the world enough to spend that much time in one location. Variety of cultures is the part I like the most.
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 7/18/14 at 3:23 pm to Jefferson Davis
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Jefferson Davis
Any recommendations on things to do there? Should be there two or three days.
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