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re: What's Your Favorite "Trash Fish" to Eat?

Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:38 am to
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:38 am to
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fish for fish with brains like trout, flounder,etc.


you mean those fish that I can walk up on and stab with a stick.

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I've even had people tell me they don't fish redfish because they are too easy to catch


Better than catching hardheads. I love sight fishing for reds in the marsh. Catching a nice red on light tackle is fun in my book. And I'll enjoy those suckers on the half shell when I get back on land.
Posted by Count Chocula
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:41 am to
Back in the good old days when they didn't have all these minimal limits on snapper, cobia, ling, etc... we used to call Amberjack trash fish. How times have changed.
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:46 am to
I enjoy sheep head more than I do red fish so I won't consider it trash.

Croackers, pinfish, and hardtails. Alligator gars make delicious fish patties. My dad routinely goes night fishing for them.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:57 am to
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R2R, the fish I had in mind as former trash, now fad fish are crawfish (yes, crawfish), redfish, sheepshead (used to be called black drum in restaurants),


That's what I was looking for. re: Black drum, it's amazing that some places charge $20+ bucks for it. I tend to agree with O Brah that there's not a huge range of flavors between some cheaper fish and more expensive ones.

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When I was a kid, we'd try anything - eel, Lake Pontchartrain clams (not good, although the native Americans sure ate a lot of them), shark, rays, alligator gar, croaker, pinfish, mullet, bonita, Spanish and king mackerel, you name it.


I'm not a fan of oily fish and gar balls are some nasty shite, I don't care how well someone fries them or what you dip them in.
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:57 am to
I remember puppy drum at Galatoire's as a kid. (not a brag)
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:02 am to
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Sheepshead


Growing up in LA we always tossed these back. Since moving to FL I've learned the Floridians love them. They'd be shocked to see what we tossed back in LA..

The local Asians will keep Ladyfish, they boil the meat and then make a patty of sorts out of it with lemongrass and other spices before pan frying. Take my word for it, its just awful..
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 10:04 am
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:18 am to
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, it's amazing that some places charge $20+ bucks for it. I tend to agree with O Brah that there's not a huge range of flavors between some cheaper fish and more expensive ones.


I don't understand what the cost of a fish in a restaurant has to do with the taste.


Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:26 am to
I've had black drum before and find it to be pretty bland and tasteless. In fact, I don't usually order fish at restaurants because of the fact that the product itself usually doesn't offer much flavor.

It's the dipping in tartar sauce of fried catfish, or redfish being topped with meunière and lump crab meat that have people paying money for fish at restaurants .. not some inherent delicious quality of these ubiquitous fish. Now a nice piece of amberjack or barramundi or uni or sardines .. something that has lots of natural flavor, I can get into that.
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:34 am to
I typically don't order fish I can catch at restaurants unless the place is known for a certain dish. Like that $50 redfish at Peche. It's worth every penny and that's a fish that I catch quite often.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:49 am to
Although you can't sell it I'm surprised nobody mentioned large mouth bass. My great uncle said growing up they would eat grinnel, gar, etc, but they threw back bass. He said they weren't in ponds or most lakes back then, mostly in rivers. I was shocked to hear that but not long ago I brought that up to a group of old men, 80s plus, and they all said the same. Although bass isn't considered one of the best eating fish, at least in n la it's pretty common now for people to eat. Also, like someone else said, lobster used to be considered trash, they forced slaves to eat it on the way to America.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 10:51 am
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:05 am to
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Many times, today's trash fish are tomorrow's fish fad.


"Many" times huh? Name a couple. I'll give you one: Crawfish. But that trend started decades ago. List some of these new fads you're talking about..
Lobster
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:08 am to
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sheepshead (used to be called black drum in restaurants)


I've heard of sheepshead being called bay snapper but not black drum
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:16 am to
are bonita fish big?
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:21 am to
I don't think they're very big. Maybe 16 inches? I remember on Mind of a Chef David Chang used bonito to make his katsuobushi. The end product looked and sounded awesome.
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
9331 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:25 am to
More thick and bloody than long.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:27 am to
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I remember on Mind of a Chef David Chang used bonito to make his katsuobushi. The end product looked and sounded awesome.



If he can make a shitty fish like bonito taste excellent, give him a James Beard, pronto.
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:46 am to
gafftop =/= hardhead
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:54 am to
I regularly munch on bonito flakes
Posted by JasonL79
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:10 pm to
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are bonita fish big?


Usually around 5-20lbs.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:13 pm to
there was a cool book review in Monday's WSJ that relates to the topic at hand: 'American Catch' by Paul Greenberg . talks some about Louisiana / Gulf shrimping.



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This is Mr. Greenberg's ultimate goal—to get us to eat the seafood from our nation's bounty. He points to the remarkable fact that, "while 91 percent of the seafood Americans eat is foreign, a third of the seafood Americans catch gets sold to foreigners." In addition, he points out, "Americans now harvest our best, most nutritious fish in our best-managed Alaskan fisheries and send those fish over to Asia. In exchange, we are importing fish farmed in Asia, with little of the brain-building compounds fish eaters are seeking when they eat fish." In case you're wondering, the inferior fish we are importing from Asia is tilapia. Perhaps Mr. Greenberg's next book will explain how we can break our addiction to tilapia and Asian whiteleg shrimp.


That's astounding to me.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 12:14 pm
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