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re: Why Democrats are so confident
Posted on 7/7/14 at 11:10 pm to onmymedicalgrind
Posted on 7/7/14 at 11:10 pm to onmymedicalgrind
The republican usually performs like this on election day
1) 60% white
2) 30% of Hispanics
3) 10% of blacks
4) 30-40% of Asians (Around 70% of Vietnamese)
There is a base to build upon
And I do not think it is a good idea to use 2008 and 2012 as examples, as Obama is a phenomena.
1) 60% white
2) 30% of Hispanics
3) 10% of blacks
4) 30-40% of Asians (Around 70% of Vietnamese)
There is a base to build upon
And I do not think it is a good idea to use 2008 and 2012 as examples, as Obama is a phenomena.
This post was edited on 7/7/14 at 11:12 pm
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 11:13 pm to stuntman
Your post is all fine and dandy, but unless 95% of blacks are on welfare, 70% of Asians and Jews are on welfare, etc the belief that "minorities vote dem for free shite and obama phones" is totally unfounded. No amount of spin in your previous post changes this very simple mathematical fact.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 11:15 pm to onmymedicalgrind
Interesting statistics, for what the R candidate did last election.
"Mitt Romney won just 17 percent of nonwhite voters in the 2012 election. That includes African Americans, Latinos, Asian Americans and all other groups that fall under the umbrella of “nonwhite.”
LINK
"Mitt Romney won just 17 percent of nonwhite voters in the 2012 election. That includes African Americans, Latinos, Asian Americans and all other groups that fall under the umbrella of “nonwhite.”
LINK
Posted on 7/7/14 at 11:17 pm to wfeliciana
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That includes African Americans, Latinos, Asian Americans and all other groups that fall under the umbrella of “nonwhite.”
Since when did all Latinos become non white?
Posted on 7/7/14 at 11:17 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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And I do not think it is a good idea to use 2008 and 2012 as examples, as Obama is a phenomena.
Well sure I can make any argument seem feasible if I discard the data that disagrees with my conclusion the most.
Maybe Obama was a flukey phenomenon. Maybe not. No one knows that at this point. He dominates those demographics in 2 separate elections. That tends to lend credence away from your theory.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 11:18 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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And I do not think it is a good idea to use 2008 and 2012 as examples, as Obama is a phenomena.
I agree that he was but you can't just ignore that the voting public changed in the 8 years of between Bush and Obama.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 11:19 pm to Toddy
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primarily representing older, white, religiously devout, and nonurban voters who fear that hurtling change is undermining traditional American values.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 11:19 pm to wfeliciana
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"Mitt Romney won just 17 percent of nonwhite voters in the 2012 election
Well clearly, according to this board, that 17% is the hard working tax payers. The 83% that voted Dem are the leeches who live on welfare. Am I doing this right?
Posted on 7/7/14 at 11:20 pm to Toddy
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Will the GOP change before it's too late?
what have they changed so far? they're frickedPosted on 7/7/14 at 11:20 pm to The Calvin
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what have they changed so far? they're fricked
We heard this about the Dems in 1988.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 11:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Since when did all Latinos become non white?
Surprised me that Pew lumped like that. I can only suppose it was to show all ethnic groups as one body.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 11:21 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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The 83% that voted Dem are the leeches who live on welfare. Am I doing this right?
Well you forgot to mention they were probably blacks and hispanics but yeah you're doing it right
Posted on 7/7/14 at 11:22 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Meh, unless they change something were the key words really
I see most going down with the ship until something does change
I see most going down with the ship until something does change
Posted on 7/7/14 at 11:23 pm to onmymedicalgrind
I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying or I'm not articulating it as well as I need to.
I'm not saying most minorities are on welfare and therefore vote Democrat. Republicans aren't saying that either. I'm saying minorities, especially Dem voting minorities and the vast majority of Democrat voters believe that government is the ultimate charitable organization and that "cuts" to that "charity" (ending the handing out of "free shite") is a kind of sin.
So, they do vote for "free" stuff...not necessarily for themselves, but because they believe their "group" and society as a whole will be better off because of it.
Simply put, they do vote for "free shite". Not the only reason, but a big reason.
I'm not saying most minorities are on welfare and therefore vote Democrat. Republicans aren't saying that either. I'm saying minorities, especially Dem voting minorities and the vast majority of Democrat voters believe that government is the ultimate charitable organization and that "cuts" to that "charity" (ending the handing out of "free shite") is a kind of sin.
So, they do vote for "free" stuff...not necessarily for themselves, but because they believe their "group" and society as a whole will be better off because of it.
Simply put, they do vote for "free shite". Not the only reason, but a big reason.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 11:24 pm to wfeliciana
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Surprised me that Pew lumped like that. I can only suppose it was to show all ethnic groups as one body.
Latino or Hispanic encompasses a whole lot of different folks with a wide range of backgrounds. In fact, more and more hispanics are declaring themselves as "white."
LINK
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Hispanics are often described as driving up the nonwhite share of the population. But a new study of census forms finds that more and more Hispanics are identifying as white.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 11:25 pm to The Calvin
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Meh, unless they change something were the key words really
I see most going down with the ship until something does change
All the GOP needs is someone with a charismatic, strong personality. Issues matter far less than the ability to communicate.
This post was edited on 7/7/14 at 11:26 pm
Posted on 7/7/14 at 11:26 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Issues matter far less than the ability to communicate.
I'll agree with you there, sadly
Posted on 7/7/14 at 11:28 pm to The Calvin
Romney, Dole, McCain, just can't excite many people beyond the very core of the base. This is the only reason the GOP lost in those races.
Bill Clinton's approval rating climbed over 20 points following his appearance on Arsenio, where he played the sax.
Bill Clinton's approval rating climbed over 20 points following his appearance on Arsenio, where he played the sax.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 11:40 pm to RogerTheShrubber
The democratic track record when it comes to helping latinos and blacks advance upward is a miserable failure, as well. And yes, I can absolutely blame that solely on the party of Jackson, as they rule virtually all minority precincts.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:02 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The democratic track record when it comes to helping latinos and blacks advance upward is a miserable failure, as well. And yes, I can absolutely blame that solely on the party of Jackson, as they rule virtually all minority precincts.
Not true, buddy...in a lot of instances but for the cultural violence in the urban hoods.
In the country...Blacks rake in the 'reparation' money. ADHD SSI Disability...is a given for most any young Black that can exhibit an attitude (we all had one at that age). Noticed all them designer cars with the fancy rims lately. Parked in front of new trailers. The Community Reinvestment Act didn't go anywhere...just changed it's name.
And there are all manner of Social Worker type jobs, from those vans that drive people wherever, to all kinds of government, community-service type stuff. I have Black friends who work this stuff; in fact, I'm loaning some paintings for a big blowout next week. Plenty money to put on a show.
And I don't begrudge; but I know that it's all QE based. And is destined to come to an abrupt stop one morning...just like back in '08. Only this time, the 'full faith and credit' card won't be there. In fact, it'll be the REASON for the crash...instead of a solution.
Latinos? Open borders. Immigration *reform* (amnesty) in the Executive Order pipeline. Voting status, which will assure a Social Democracy Welfare State.
Bottom line. Most Blacks and Latinos WILL settle and vote for minimal Government subsidization, and be just fine on the 'couch'. Those folk would have never been inspired to compete for relative affluence anyway. They'll be happy to take Pelosi's deal, and purse the *artist* in them
Politicians and voters won't stop this. Numbers will.
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