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Rand Paul is Pro-Israel
Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:16 pm
Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:16 pm
Very much unlike his father, who took a strict, isolationist stance throughout his political career. Rand Paul actually realizes that isolation is not only unworkable in the 21st Century, but impossible.
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:17 pm to RollTide1987
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Very much unlike his father, who took a strict, isolationist stance throughout his political career.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:20 pm to Turkey_Creek_Tiger
That internet meme may be clever in your eyes, but it ignores the difference between isolationism and interventionism .
Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:20 pm to RollTide1987
OP doesn't know what isolationist means.
Ron Paul is for non interference. He's all about seeking trade and commerce with other countries and not interfering in their affairs and invading them. That's not isolationism.
Ron Paul is for non interference. He's all about seeking trade and commerce with other countries and not interfering in their affairs and invading them. That's not isolationism.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:21 pm to RollTide1987
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That internet meme may be clever in your eyes, but it ignores the difference between isolationism and interventionism .
the meme is pointing out that you dont know the difference between isolationism and non-interventionsm
Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:23 pm to Turkey_Creek_Tiger
Ron Paul is a stereotypical isolationist.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:25 pm to Turkey_Creek_Tiger
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the meme is pointing out that you dont know the difference between isolationism and non-interventionsm
Ron Paul is an isolationist. He is no non-interventionist.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:26 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:28 pm to LSURussian
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Ron Paul is a stereotypical isolationist.
he's a non-interventionist. big difference.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:28 pm to RollTide1987
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Ron Paul is an isolationist.
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Ron Paul is not an isolationist, but a non-interventionist.
Calling Dr. Paul an isolationist comes from simply not understanding the significant differences between isolationism and non-interventionism, mainly, with the issue of trade.
Isolationism is the doctrine of completely isolating our country from the affairs of other nations, and focusing exclusively on the growth of our own country. Non-interventionism on the hand promotes trading with other nations, as a means to build good diplomatic relations, and for the betterment of all parties involved. Furthermore, it doesn’t rule out using military force as an option, but proponents feel that it should only be used as a last option, to come to the defense of an ally under attack, or more importantly, to defend our own country if under attack, or directly threatened by attack. Lastly, taking such military action as a last resort should only be done with the advice and support of the Congress. This policy is in sharp contrast to interventionism propagated by neoconservatives, which promotes upholding UN resolutions, overthrowing governments and replacing them ones of our own choosing, and other actions not related to our own direct security. In short, it promotes our country “policing the word”, which puts a hardship on the American people with the draining of resources and more importantly the loss of life, not to mention goes directly against the ideas of freedom of liberty. It’s hypocritical.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:29 pm to Turkey_Creek_Tiger
Why would I want to read/listen to an isolationist's take on what I already know?
Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:29 pm to LSURussian
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Isolationist. Period.
negative my friend
Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:31 pm to Sentrius
Isolationism and neutrality aren't the same thing. The US has never really been isolationist.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:31 pm to RollTide1987
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Why would I want to read/listen to an isolationist's take on what I already know?
maybe you should actually listen to what the man ACTUALLY said instead of what you want to hear?
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Wolf Blitzer: One final question, Congressman, before I let you go. In the past I’ve called you an isolationist, but I get hammered by your supporters out there …
Ron Paul: Good.
Wolf Blitzer: … when they write to me and they say, “Ron Paul is not an isolationist, he’s a non-interventionist”. Tell our viewers right now, once and for all, the difference between an isolationist and a non-interventionist.
Ron Paul: An isolationist is a protectionist that builds walls around their country, they don’t like the trade, they don’t like to travel about the world, and they like to put sanctions on different countries. So some of the people who call me that, are actually much more in favor of sanctions and limited trade, they’re the ones who don’t want to trade with Cuba and they want to put sanctions on anybody who blinks their eye at them. And yet, the opposite is what we believe in, we believe Nixon did the right thing by opening up trade doors with China, because that is when we quit killing each other and we are more at peace, which we better be, because they have become our banker. So non-intervention is quite a bit different since what the founders advised was to get along with people, trade with people, and to practice diplomacy, rather than having this militancy of telling people what to do and how to run the world and building walls around our own country. That is isolationism, it’s a far cry from what we believe in.
Wolf Blitzer: And just to be precise, you want to bring all the U.S. troops home, not just from Iraq and Afghanistan, but from Germany, Japan, South Korea and everyplace else around the world. Is that right?
Ron Paul: Yea, because I believe in national defense and our first responsibility, and probably one of the major responsibilities of the federal government, is the national defense. And fighting these wars does not help us, I mean, getting bogged down in Afghanistan brought the Soviet Union to its knees, and is bringing us to our knees, too. We’ve been there for ten years and it’s contributing to this huge deficit that we have. Those wars over there have contributed 4 trillion dollars worth of debt in the last 10 years. So yea, I want to bring them home, and I think we’ll be stronger for it, I think we’ll have a stronger national defense and we’ll have a lot stronger economy. If we’re serious about straightening this mess up, we have to deal with foreign policy as well monetary policy and fiscal policy and tax policy.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:31 pm to monsterballads
Yes he is. Why not just own up to and embrace it?
Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:33 pm to monsterballads
Obviously scoring political points with the moderates who watch CNN.
He's an isolationist, dude.
He's an isolationist, dude.
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:33 pm to LSURussian
because you say he is?
well you're a potato because I say you are, how do you like that?
here's what he ACTUALLY said:
well you're a potato because I say you are, how do you like that?
here's what he ACTUALLY said:
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Ron Paul: An isolationist is a protectionist that builds walls around their country, they don’t like the trade, they don’t like to travel about the world, and they like to put sanctions on different countries. So some of the people who call me that, are actually much more in favor of sanctions and limited trade, they’re the ones who don’t want to trade with Cuba and they want to put sanctions on anybody who blinks their eye at them. And yet, the opposite is what we believe in, we believe Nixon did the right thing by opening up trade doors with China, because that is when we quit killing each other and we are more at peace, which we better be, because they have become our banker. So non-intervention is quite a bit different since what the founders advised was to get along with people, trade with people, and to practice diplomacy, rather than having this militancy of telling people what to do and how to run the world and building walls around our own country. That is isolationism, it’s a far cry from what we believe in.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:34 pm to RollTide1987
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He's an isolationist, dude.
that wants to do trade with cuba and everyone else?
doesn't sound like an isolationist to me
explain why he is an isolationist
Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:35 pm to RollTide1987
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Why would I want to read/listen to an isolationist's take on what I already know?
you obviously don't know shite.
North Korea is isolationist
Switzerland is non-intervtionist
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