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re: The Republican war on women, George Will's turn
Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:46 pm to MSCoastTigerGirl
Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:46 pm to MSCoastTigerGirl
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For fricks sake. They call themselves radical.
so if they don't call themselves radical, they aren't radical? that doesn't make any sense.
I'm asking you to give me an example of what a regular feminist is to you vs. what a "molested/mentally ill" as you put it feminist is to you. What kind of things do they say/believe in.
don't link me a video, tell me in your own words.
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 3:47 pm
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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yes
congratulations, we've reached some common ground and once again shown that what we were saying really wasn't all that different you were just being needlessly difficult and defensive.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:47 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Alright, if you believe this is true then why are many women afraid of coming forward? They will tell you that they feel the exact opposite and that if they come forward they will be blamed because of what they wore, because they "egged him on" that men "can't control themselves"
So the one's that happily come forward are the one's that are lying? The true rape victims are scared while the fake ones are not?
Maybe something to this, to some degree.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:49 pm to Draconian Sanctions
you didn't listen though
i don't think tehre is anything that can be done. i'm willing to listen to proposals
what the feds are doing is NOT a policy i support
i don't think tehre is anything that can be done. i'm willing to listen to proposals
what the feds are doing is NOT a policy i support
Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:49 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Liberal Feminism holds that the oppression of women is the denial of their equal rights, representation, and access to opportunities. Liberal Feminism takes a gender-neutral/gender-blind approach and holds that all men and women are created equal and should be treated the same, and seeks to reform oppressive systems. Liberal Feminism focuses strongly on fixing women's exclusion from political power.
Radical Feminism, is, as its name implies, more radical than Liberal feminism. Radical Feminism carries the belief that "the personal is political" and sees that the oppression of women is caused by patriarchy, a system of male authority, strongly manifested in sexuality, personal relationships, and the family, and then carried over into the rest of the man-dominated world. As opposed to Liberal Feminism, Radical Feminism does not take a gender-blind/gender-neutral approach;
Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:50 pm to Draconian Sanctions
My own words:
Radical feminists are batshit fricking crazy.
Radical feminists are batshit fricking crazy.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:51 pm to MSCoastTigerGirl
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Radical feminists are batshit fricking crazy.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:51 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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you were just being needlessly difficult and defensive.
You're an idiot.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i don't think tehre is anything that can be done. i'm willing to listen to proposals
maybe there is, maybe there isn't. I don't claim to have all the answers.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:51 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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I didn't ask that.
do you think we should be trying, yes or n
If we have done everything we can, except for violating the rights of the accused, then yes we should stop.
There is not a man in this thread that would not want to see a true rapist punished to the fullest extent of the law, and beyond. However, it has become open season on men when woman can and do claim rape simply because they changed their mind the next morning.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:51 pm to the808bass
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You're an idiot.
quality contribution. "I don't like what you're saying so I'm going to call you names." Brilliant.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:53 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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quality contribution. "I don't like what you're saying so I'm going to call you names." Brilliant
I often have a hard time following the thoughts of idiots. I bet I am not the only one.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:55 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:You'd probably need clarify "feminist" and/or "views" to appropriately address that. Many "feminists" do in fact maintain wildly extreme views, and many come from unenviable backgrounds.
Is it your belief that every feminist out there holds her views because
Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:55 pm to Draconian Sanctions
You started with a claim unrelated to the OP, backed it up with a citation that wasn't accurate, argued over it in an illogical way and I'm the problem in the thread.
I honestly am unsure of what or why you're arguing. Are rapes under reported? Yup. You don't do away with the basic rights of the accused to fix that problem. And that is what colleges and universities are doing in their student proceedings. And that is what Will's whole column addresses.
I honestly am unsure of what or why you're arguing. Are rapes under reported? Yup. You don't do away with the basic rights of the accused to fix that problem. And that is what colleges and universities are doing in their student proceedings. And that is what Will's whole column addresses.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:56 pm to MSCoastTigerGirl
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Liberal Feminism holds that the oppression of women is the denial of their equal rights, representation, and access to opportunities. Liberal Feminism takes a gender-neutral/gender-blind approach and holds that all men and women are created equal and should be treated the same, and seeks to reform oppressive systems. Liberal Feminism focuses strongly on fixing women's exclusion from political power.
Radical Feminism, is, as its name implies, more radical than Liberal feminism. Radical Feminism carries the belief that "the personal is political" and sees that the oppression of women is caused by patriarchy, a system of male authority, strongly manifested in sexuality, personal relationships, and the family, and then carried over into the rest of the man-dominated world. As opposed to Liberal Feminism, Radical Feminism does not take a gender-blind/gender-neutral approach;
this isn't in your own words but fine.
I'm pretty much done with this thread, but I do subscribe to Liberal feminism, and furthermore IMO, the republican party and the right in general is diametrically opposed to those values. If you want to vote with them anyway that's you're right obviously.
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:56 pm to MSCoastTigerGirl
Awwww, Rexella's little heart is breaking because some mean old Republicans are waging a "war" on women.
Yet, when his idol Obama foolishly and unsuccessfully tried to prop up the extremist Muslim Brotherhood in the Middle East, a bloodthirsty group who believe in Sharia Law, a system that treats women worse than cattle, little Rexella's voice was strangely silent.
Just one more example of just how hypocritical Maggie's Daddy really is.......
Yet, when his idol Obama foolishly and unsuccessfully tried to prop up the extremist Muslim Brotherhood in the Middle East, a bloodthirsty group who believe in Sharia Law, a system that treats women worse than cattle, little Rexella's voice was strangely silent.
Just one more example of just how hypocritical Maggie's Daddy really is.......
Posted on 7/5/14 at 3:57 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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but I do subscribe to Liberal feminism, and furthermore IMO, the republican party and the right in general is diametrically opposed to those values.
quote:Isn't that nice of you.
If you want to vote with them anyway that's you're right obviously.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:00 pm to the808bass
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You started with a claim unrelated to the OP
and?
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, backed it up with a citation that wasn't accurate,
lol @ you taking SFP's word for it
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argued over it in an illogical way
wrong again
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and I'm the problem in the thread.
yeah, you are. if you can't talk to someone without using personal attacks, it shows that you don't have a legitimate opinion to stand on.
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I honestly am unsure of what or why you're arguing.
I was trying to get to the heart of why so many in this thread are inexplicably defensive about simple facts. I think I have cleared some of it up. Some.
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Are rapes under reported? Yup. You don't do away with the basic rights of the accused to fix that problem.
And when did I say we should?
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And that is what colleges and universities are doing in their student proceedings. And that is what Will's whole column addresses.
Good for Will.
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:03 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:So you subscribe to gender-based preferential treatment. It's certainly your right
I do subscribe to Liberal feminism
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:04 pm to NC_Tigah
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So you subscribe to gender-based preferential treatment
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Liberal Feminism takes a gender-neutral/gender-blind approach and holds that all men and women are created equal and should be treated the same
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