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Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:21 pm to jrduck143
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I am not Choi, at least I don’t think I am. And I only have 2 posts. But what Buso12 stated is accurate. Also took Choi for AP1 and it was exactly as described.
Saying the guy with 3 posts... I'm sensing a pattern here...
Buso12, looks like you appear to be taking ISDS 705 with Lin this term? Are you only taking 1 class at a time?
Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:46 pm to TigerDragon435
@TigerDragon WE MADE IT! See you there!
Also adding from discussion a few pages back...I think A Darrat is getting a slightly undue bad rep. I would take him again. The book IS NOT OPTIONAL but available to download for free if you google it. Read the book and the class and assignments make sense. Don't and you will struggle. Made an A and honestly could have doubled it with another class. Nothing can be worse than my bad decision over the summer of taking ACCT and FIN together.
Also adding from discussion a few pages back...I think A Darrat is getting a slightly undue bad rep. I would take him again. The book IS NOT OPTIONAL but available to download for free if you google it. Read the book and the class and assignments make sense. Don't and you will struggle. Made an A and honestly could have doubled it with another class. Nothing can be worse than my bad decision over the summer of taking ACCT and FIN together.
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 11/7/18 at 10:17 pm to WDE251
hmmm... just started an HR MGMT certificate course today.
I'm having flashbacks to Wren's MADM 715.
Decided to try to find my notes on Labor Unions and re-opened some of the material she gave us.
HOW IN THE HELL did I/we ever make sense of that disorganized mess?!
Well, I see she is teaching it again. Best of luck to those registering for it.
I did somehow get an A. Even on my project, of which I seriously thought was only average quality.
I'm having flashbacks to Wren's MADM 715.
Decided to try to find my notes on Labor Unions and re-opened some of the material she gave us.
HOW IN THE HELL did I/we ever make sense of that disorganized mess?!
Well, I see she is teaching it again. Best of luck to those registering for it.
I did somehow get an A. Even on my project, of which I seriously thought was only average quality.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:47 pm to WDE251
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Nothing can be worse than my bad decision over the summer of taking ACCT and FIN together.
Wait... what? I'm planning to pair those in AP2. What's wrong with that??
I got a relatively high A in the class, but a large number of people struggled a LOT with his tests. The grade in his class is mostly focused on the writing, and I personally rarely lose any points on writing based assignments. His tests however, are terrible, with too much material to cover, and two tests scheduled right on top of case analyses weeks. My main issue with his class was the PACING and lack of tie in to the material, not the difficulty. Weeks 3 and 5 are stupid heavy with studying and writing, weeks 1 and 7 are stupid light. Fix the pacing and it's not bad at all.
WDE is right about the text as well, you do NEED the textbook. You'll suffer greatly without it. I did double his class with MKT 705, which also has a substantial amount of writing, but the course is very evenly spread out which makes it a lot more manageable.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 8:41 am to baroqen
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Nothing can be worse than my bad decision over the summer of taking ACCT and FIN together.
Wait... what? I'm planning to pair those in AP2. What's wrong with that??
Maybe I'm not understanding something. Having taken those two classes separately, I honestly don't see taking them both in the same term being a problem.
I took ACCT 701 and MKT 701 together. Now that was a challenge...but I pulled an A out of both.
This post was edited on 11/8/18 at 8:46 am
Posted on 11/8/18 at 9:11 am to baroqen
@baroqen yes, currently only taking ISDS 705 with Lin. This month is too busy with work and closing on a house so I decided to just take an easy class aka ISDS 705 w/ Lin
Posted on 11/8/18 at 9:29 am to GeauxUF
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I took ACCT 701 and MKT 701 together. Now that was a challenge...but I pulled an A out of both.
My heaviest so far was MKT 701 paired with MKT 705. It wasn't difficulty so much as the sheer amount of reading, researching, and writing for 7 solid weeks. I should have known better than to take two marketing classes at the same time. ISDS 710 paired with MADM 760 immediately after has really made me think about quitting the program. I'm really feeling burned out and I'll be glad for the 6 week break.
Last two sessions are ISDS 702/MADM 701 and FIN 701/ACCT 701 pairs.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 10:47 am to baroqen
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My heaviest so far was MKT 701 paired with MKT 705. It wasn't difficulty so much as the sheer amount of reading, researching, and writing for 7 solid weeks. I should have known better than to take two marketing classes at the same time. ISDS 710 paired with MADM 760 immediately after has really made me think about quitting the program. I'm really feeling burned out and I'll be glad for the 6 week break.
Last two sessions are ISDS 702/MADM 701 and FIN 701/ACCT 701 pairs.
I feel that. I seriously considered quitting after the ACCT/MKT combo.
Your last two combinations sound reasonable. It's all just a grind...
Posted on 11/8/18 at 10:49 am to WDE251
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@TigerDragon WE MADE IT! See you there!
Posted on 11/8/18 at 8:30 pm to baroqen
Since a lot of people are registering for next year, I decided to write reviews of the courses I have taken so far. This will hopefully answer a lot of questions about at least some of the professors.
Disclaimer: These reviews are based on my own personal experiences in the program, so your experience may differ based on your personal tastes and skillset. I am a prolific writer (as you will clearly understand by the end of the reviews) so the actual writing portion of any assignment is never difficult for me. I have moderately high, albeit rusty math skills and was a generally good student when I showed up for class, and sometimes even when I didn’t. Full time, mentally demanding job and a family with two small children, and a rather needy wife. Your time commitment may vary from mine depending on your reading speed, reading comprehension, math skills, and general ability to focus, and/or ignore the small child that keeps climbing back into your lap asking for a another story. Although I have not completely finished one of the classes (MADM 760), I feel pretty confident to review it due to the highly regular structure. Also note that some classes are not difficult, but still have high workloads, so I rate these items separately. Being able to understand the material is very different from having enough time to finish it sometimes.
Econ 705 – Shaughnessy
In one phrase – “The Gold Standard of Professors in the program.”
Difficulty (out of 5 *) - * * * *
Comments – Literally the best teacher in the program, by far. This does NOT mean the class is easy, it was actually pretty tough. What it DOES mean is that he is absolutely passionate about the subject matter, and noticeably tries to help you to learn it, because he wants you to be passionate about it too (not happening). He has video lectures, supplemental videos, discussion forums, weekly live zoom sessions, and even “comedy interludes” (mostly not very funny, except maybe to economists). He is also highly responsive to email, and you absolute can and should email him or post in the forum if you’re having problems. Essentially, he is highly interactive as a teacher, and probably the closest you will get to a “classroom” setting in an online program. Certainly the closest you will get at LSUS.
“A” Strategy – The textbook really is supplemental for this class. You can get one if you want, but you should be able to get everything you need from his lecture videos and supplemental videos. Note that the supplemental videos are multiple, click the “hamburger” on the first video to see the entire playlist available. You are basically graded along the lines of a few quizzes a week (called different names). Untimed and unproctored. Don’t let that fool you, as the first few aren’t easy and the end of week module assessments is HARD. Take your time with the first video quizzes and self-assessment, which are mostly qualitative. Watch the videos, re-watch the videos again while taking the quiz. Watch a supplemental if you need to, re-watch if you need to. Do YouTube searches on the topic if you still need help and watch a few more videos. Do whatever you need to do until you are 100% sure that your answers are correct. If you want an “A” in the class, you can’t afford to lose any points on these. The extra work you put in will also help a little for the final assessment, which is mostly quantitative. You get a homework “assignment” which you should once again do exhaustively. The assignment is essentially the final module assessment. If you do the assignment correctly, you will have all the answers you need for the assessment (just make sure you label things, so you know what they are for the assessment). That said, there were still a few application type questions that really seemed subjective. If you get through these assessments with a B average, the 100’s from the quizzes will pull you back to an A.
Time commitment - Depending on your math ability (mine is moderate-high), In addition to studying time, I recommend setting aside at least 2-3 hours per quiz and much more for the assignment. At moderate-high math skill with some familiarity with Excel, 15-20 hours per week. Add more for low math and/or low Excel ability.
ISDS 705 – Lin
In one phrase – “Does this person actually exist?”
Difficulty (out of 5 *) - *
Comments – If Shaughnessy is the Gold Standard, then Lin is the Sub-Standard. Several of us here at TD are convinced that he doesn’t actually exist. If he does, he’s probably on a beach sipping Mai Tai’s all session, because he sure as hell isn’t interacting with the class. Obviously there is no public forum, zoom sessions, or any interaction whatsoever. You’re given a free textbook written before the invention of the first Phone, that would be perfect for anyone who wanted to enter the IS profession in the 90’s. It’s outdated and boring as are the videos and supplemental readings you will be assigned. Fortunately for you, you don’t actually need to understand anything you’re assigned, and most of it is useless anyway! The tests also use ProctorU, which means someone will be staring at you as you take the test, and possibly accusing you of cheating for using the allowed double sided note sheet.
“A” Strategy – Your grade is based on 3 tests. That’s it. You bomb the tests, and you’re out of luck. I did mention this was a one * class right? That’s because it is easily the easiest (and most useless) course in the program. The material is probably appropriate for the high school level, and the tests are even below that. They are mostly focused on vocabulary/definitions with a smattering of trivia. You’re allowed a single 8.5”x11” double sided note sheet, so make use of it. While you are reading, type out everything you think might be a good vocabulary definition or piece of trivia. Don’t copy and paste, type it out as this should help you remember it better. Once you’re done with all of your typing, set the margins to the absolute minimum, single space, and then set the font to the smallest you can read (you can manually type to select a font smaller than 8). Use a small font like Calibri Light or Arial Narrow. You can edit the notes a little more if you need to make it fit the two pages (one page front and back). At this point, you should be able to get at least 70% of the questions correct from memory, another 20% will just be definitions that you hopefully wrote down. The last 10% or so will be trivia, along the lined of a name, date, or acronym. Once again, some of the reading is highly technical and will make zero sense. You don’t need to understand it, just try to find the possible vocabulary words.
Time commitment – Maximum 8 hours per test for 3 tests. 24 hours max for the class (probably less). The tests took me less than 10 minutes to finish each time.
Disclaimer: These reviews are based on my own personal experiences in the program, so your experience may differ based on your personal tastes and skillset. I am a prolific writer (as you will clearly understand by the end of the reviews) so the actual writing portion of any assignment is never difficult for me. I have moderately high, albeit rusty math skills and was a generally good student when I showed up for class, and sometimes even when I didn’t. Full time, mentally demanding job and a family with two small children, and a rather needy wife. Your time commitment may vary from mine depending on your reading speed, reading comprehension, math skills, and general ability to focus, and/or ignore the small child that keeps climbing back into your lap asking for a another story. Although I have not completely finished one of the classes (MADM 760), I feel pretty confident to review it due to the highly regular structure. Also note that some classes are not difficult, but still have high workloads, so I rate these items separately. Being able to understand the material is very different from having enough time to finish it sometimes.
Econ 705 – Shaughnessy
In one phrase – “The Gold Standard of Professors in the program.”
Difficulty (out of 5 *) - * * * *
Comments – Literally the best teacher in the program, by far. This does NOT mean the class is easy, it was actually pretty tough. What it DOES mean is that he is absolutely passionate about the subject matter, and noticeably tries to help you to learn it, because he wants you to be passionate about it too (not happening). He has video lectures, supplemental videos, discussion forums, weekly live zoom sessions, and even “comedy interludes” (mostly not very funny, except maybe to economists). He is also highly responsive to email, and you absolute can and should email him or post in the forum if you’re having problems. Essentially, he is highly interactive as a teacher, and probably the closest you will get to a “classroom” setting in an online program. Certainly the closest you will get at LSUS.
“A” Strategy – The textbook really is supplemental for this class. You can get one if you want, but you should be able to get everything you need from his lecture videos and supplemental videos. Note that the supplemental videos are multiple, click the “hamburger” on the first video to see the entire playlist available. You are basically graded along the lines of a few quizzes a week (called different names). Untimed and unproctored. Don’t let that fool you, as the first few aren’t easy and the end of week module assessments is HARD. Take your time with the first video quizzes and self-assessment, which are mostly qualitative. Watch the videos, re-watch the videos again while taking the quiz. Watch a supplemental if you need to, re-watch if you need to. Do YouTube searches on the topic if you still need help and watch a few more videos. Do whatever you need to do until you are 100% sure that your answers are correct. If you want an “A” in the class, you can’t afford to lose any points on these. The extra work you put in will also help a little for the final assessment, which is mostly quantitative. You get a homework “assignment” which you should once again do exhaustively. The assignment is essentially the final module assessment. If you do the assignment correctly, you will have all the answers you need for the assessment (just make sure you label things, so you know what they are for the assessment). That said, there were still a few application type questions that really seemed subjective. If you get through these assessments with a B average, the 100’s from the quizzes will pull you back to an A.
Time commitment - Depending on your math ability (mine is moderate-high), In addition to studying time, I recommend setting aside at least 2-3 hours per quiz and much more for the assignment. At moderate-high math skill with some familiarity with Excel, 15-20 hours per week. Add more for low math and/or low Excel ability.
ISDS 705 – Lin
In one phrase – “Does this person actually exist?”
Difficulty (out of 5 *) - *
Comments – If Shaughnessy is the Gold Standard, then Lin is the Sub-Standard. Several of us here at TD are convinced that he doesn’t actually exist. If he does, he’s probably on a beach sipping Mai Tai’s all session, because he sure as hell isn’t interacting with the class. Obviously there is no public forum, zoom sessions, or any interaction whatsoever. You’re given a free textbook written before the invention of the first Phone, that would be perfect for anyone who wanted to enter the IS profession in the 90’s. It’s outdated and boring as are the videos and supplemental readings you will be assigned. Fortunately for you, you don’t actually need to understand anything you’re assigned, and most of it is useless anyway! The tests also use ProctorU, which means someone will be staring at you as you take the test, and possibly accusing you of cheating for using the allowed double sided note sheet.
“A” Strategy – Your grade is based on 3 tests. That’s it. You bomb the tests, and you’re out of luck. I did mention this was a one * class right? That’s because it is easily the easiest (and most useless) course in the program. The material is probably appropriate for the high school level, and the tests are even below that. They are mostly focused on vocabulary/definitions with a smattering of trivia. You’re allowed a single 8.5”x11” double sided note sheet, so make use of it. While you are reading, type out everything you think might be a good vocabulary definition or piece of trivia. Don’t copy and paste, type it out as this should help you remember it better. Once you’re done with all of your typing, set the margins to the absolute minimum, single space, and then set the font to the smallest you can read (you can manually type to select a font smaller than 8). Use a small font like Calibri Light or Arial Narrow. You can edit the notes a little more if you need to make it fit the two pages (one page front and back). At this point, you should be able to get at least 70% of the questions correct from memory, another 20% will just be definitions that you hopefully wrote down. The last 10% or so will be trivia, along the lined of a name, date, or acronym. Once again, some of the reading is highly technical and will make zero sense. You don’t need to understand it, just try to find the possible vocabulary words.
Time commitment – Maximum 8 hours per test for 3 tests. 24 hours max for the class (probably less). The tests took me less than 10 minutes to finish each time.
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 12:07 am
Posted on 11/8/18 at 8:31 pm to baroqen
MKT 701 – A. Darrat
In one phrase – “Where did this come from?”
Difficulty (out of 5 *) - * * (with textbook) or * * * * (without textbook)
Comments – Much maligned, for some legitimate reason, Darrat might still be the best professor to choose for this class as the others are generally even more maligned. That said, it is far from optimal but could be much better with just a few small tweaks. The biggest problem with the class is poor pacing, so expect your 7 week workload to be: light, medium, VERY HEAVY, heavy, VERY HEAVY, medium, light. Second major problem is that most of the writing assignments don’t feel like they tie into the course material at all. The third problem is that you’re only given a powerpoint that is VERY obviously meant to be used in a classroom setting with parts (highlighted in red) that were meant to be verbally expanded upon. The last problem is that without the text you will constantly be wondering where the test questions are coming from, because they aren’t covered by the powerpoints at all. The class has 2 discussion posts most weeks, a case analysis on each of week 3, 4, and 5, and tests on week 3, 5, and 7. No public forum, no video lectures, no zoom, and minimal interaction. The grading is heavily skewed towards your multiple writing assignments, but you can’t neglect the tests. Don’t expect to understand the tests without the textbook. It should be a requirement. A change to weekly quizzes or tests and case analyses on alternating weeks would dramatically improve the course. Tie the writing assignments with the actual course material, narrate the powerpoints, and you’d have a decent class.
“A” strategy – Get the textbook. Read the textbook. This will ensure that you at least don’t completely bomb the tests. If you do not get the textbook, you can stop reading this strategy because chances are you will not be able to get an “A” by just using the provided powerpoints. After that, the rest is all writing. Write, write, write, and then write some more. READ THE RUBRIC, read it each time you’re writing. You’re not writing a business case, you’re writing for a scoring rubric, so make sure you hit all the points that the rubric wants. Be creative. If you have an idea that you can support using reasoning, then just go with it. Try to throw in a few vocabulary words from the textbook when applicable. Getting top scores on your writing assignments will give you leeway on the sometimes wonky test questions.
Time commitment – Possibly substantial if you’re looking for an “A”. Writing generally took me no time at all, but deciding on a topic and then finding good citation sources took a lot of time. The time commitment is also highly variable due to the poor scheduling of the assignments, but expect to spend at least 25 hours on weeks 3 and 5 writing and studying. The other weeks are lighter with Weeks 1 and 7 probably taking less than 10 hours.
MADM 760 – McLaughlin
In one phrase – “Almost great!”
Difficulty (out of 5 *) - * *
Comments – This is what MKT 701 could be when it grows up. MADM seems to have the opposite issue of MKT 701 in that pretty much all the professors come recommended, as opposed to MKT 701 where they none of them are. While interaction is still weak, the workload is very well balanced from week to week. A weekly quiz on 1-2 chapters, weekly discussion post with two responses, and a small weekly current event paper tied to the course material. A little guidance on word count would be nice, video lectures, a public forum and a bit more interaction would be nicer. The course material is relatively straightforward and the text does a relatively good job explaining the concepts. No group work. No project or mega paper.
“A” Strategy – You need to make your initial post very early (Tuesday) followed by two response posts on two different days making the timeline a bit tight imho. Focus on the discussion post right away, I usually follow up with my first response that same night. Once again, you need to follow the rubric, but it’s also relatively vague. Just write a response for each question, which should probably be about a paragraph each. It probably wouldn’t hurt to throw in a vocabulary word or two from the text for the week. You will also need to read the text early on, because your second writing assignment must be tied to at least one concept from the course material. I recommend trying to tie in more than one… to be safe. The current event paper also partially prepares you for the quiz. The text is pretty good with just a few topics and ample examples to assist understanding. You can review the powerpoint right before the test to refresh your memory on those topics.
Time Commitment – 10 - 15 hours/week. A bit repetitive but the predictable nature of the course load is great for managing your schedule.
MKT 705 – Kim
In one phrase – “Tries hard.”
Difficulty (out of 5 *) - * *
Comments – Essentially MADM 760, but a little bit better due to more interaction/feedback. There are some lecture videos as well as external supplemental videos, some of which are really interesting. Like most marketing or management classes, there’s a good deal of writing in the class. No public forums, one quiz and one paper weeks 1-6, alternating between a case analysis and application assignment. One quiz and final exam for week 7. Lots of reading from multiple sources can be a bit confusing, so pay attention to the specific pages you’re supposed to read. You’re not required to read full chapters of many of the sources (but the actual pages aren’t “cut out” for you). The teacher seems really bright, perky, and all around pleasant. Seems like a relatively new teacher that is trying hard to have a good class.
“A” Strategy – Pretty much the same as for MADM 760, with the only exception that there is a final exam. Balanced course work with slightly more writing each week and the need to have a few external sources makes it a heavier research load, but this is balanced by no discussion forum posts. RUBRIC, RUBRIC, RUBRIC. By now this should be a common theme, but you’re writing for a rubric so make sure you’re following what it wants because the two paper requirements are NOT the same, and requirements from different professors also vary. You also get a pretty generous extra credit for creating a very simple video introducing yourself in the first week so DO IT.
Time Commitment – 12-18 hours/week. More extensive external source material requirements makes it a little more time consuming than MADM 760.
In one phrase – “Where did this come from?”
Difficulty (out of 5 *) - * * (with textbook) or * * * * (without textbook)
Comments – Much maligned, for some legitimate reason, Darrat might still be the best professor to choose for this class as the others are generally even more maligned. That said, it is far from optimal but could be much better with just a few small tweaks. The biggest problem with the class is poor pacing, so expect your 7 week workload to be: light, medium, VERY HEAVY, heavy, VERY HEAVY, medium, light. Second major problem is that most of the writing assignments don’t feel like they tie into the course material at all. The third problem is that you’re only given a powerpoint that is VERY obviously meant to be used in a classroom setting with parts (highlighted in red) that were meant to be verbally expanded upon. The last problem is that without the text you will constantly be wondering where the test questions are coming from, because they aren’t covered by the powerpoints at all. The class has 2 discussion posts most weeks, a case analysis on each of week 3, 4, and 5, and tests on week 3, 5, and 7. No public forum, no video lectures, no zoom, and minimal interaction. The grading is heavily skewed towards your multiple writing assignments, but you can’t neglect the tests. Don’t expect to understand the tests without the textbook. It should be a requirement. A change to weekly quizzes or tests and case analyses on alternating weeks would dramatically improve the course. Tie the writing assignments with the actual course material, narrate the powerpoints, and you’d have a decent class.
“A” strategy – Get the textbook. Read the textbook. This will ensure that you at least don’t completely bomb the tests. If you do not get the textbook, you can stop reading this strategy because chances are you will not be able to get an “A” by just using the provided powerpoints. After that, the rest is all writing. Write, write, write, and then write some more. READ THE RUBRIC, read it each time you’re writing. You’re not writing a business case, you’re writing for a scoring rubric, so make sure you hit all the points that the rubric wants. Be creative. If you have an idea that you can support using reasoning, then just go with it. Try to throw in a few vocabulary words from the textbook when applicable. Getting top scores on your writing assignments will give you leeway on the sometimes wonky test questions.
Time commitment – Possibly substantial if you’re looking for an “A”. Writing generally took me no time at all, but deciding on a topic and then finding good citation sources took a lot of time. The time commitment is also highly variable due to the poor scheduling of the assignments, but expect to spend at least 25 hours on weeks 3 and 5 writing and studying. The other weeks are lighter with Weeks 1 and 7 probably taking less than 10 hours.
MADM 760 – McLaughlin
In one phrase – “Almost great!”
Difficulty (out of 5 *) - * *
Comments – This is what MKT 701 could be when it grows up. MADM seems to have the opposite issue of MKT 701 in that pretty much all the professors come recommended, as opposed to MKT 701 where they none of them are. While interaction is still weak, the workload is very well balanced from week to week. A weekly quiz on 1-2 chapters, weekly discussion post with two responses, and a small weekly current event paper tied to the course material. A little guidance on word count would be nice, video lectures, a public forum and a bit more interaction would be nicer. The course material is relatively straightforward and the text does a relatively good job explaining the concepts. No group work. No project or mega paper.
“A” Strategy – You need to make your initial post very early (Tuesday) followed by two response posts on two different days making the timeline a bit tight imho. Focus on the discussion post right away, I usually follow up with my first response that same night. Once again, you need to follow the rubric, but it’s also relatively vague. Just write a response for each question, which should probably be about a paragraph each. It probably wouldn’t hurt to throw in a vocabulary word or two from the text for the week. You will also need to read the text early on, because your second writing assignment must be tied to at least one concept from the course material. I recommend trying to tie in more than one… to be safe. The current event paper also partially prepares you for the quiz. The text is pretty good with just a few topics and ample examples to assist understanding. You can review the powerpoint right before the test to refresh your memory on those topics.
Time Commitment – 10 - 15 hours/week. A bit repetitive but the predictable nature of the course load is great for managing your schedule.
MKT 705 – Kim
In one phrase – “Tries hard.”
Difficulty (out of 5 *) - * *
Comments – Essentially MADM 760, but a little bit better due to more interaction/feedback. There are some lecture videos as well as external supplemental videos, some of which are really interesting. Like most marketing or management classes, there’s a good deal of writing in the class. No public forums, one quiz and one paper weeks 1-6, alternating between a case analysis and application assignment. One quiz and final exam for week 7. Lots of reading from multiple sources can be a bit confusing, so pay attention to the specific pages you’re supposed to read. You’re not required to read full chapters of many of the sources (but the actual pages aren’t “cut out” for you). The teacher seems really bright, perky, and all around pleasant. Seems like a relatively new teacher that is trying hard to have a good class.
“A” Strategy – Pretty much the same as for MADM 760, with the only exception that there is a final exam. Balanced course work with slightly more writing each week and the need to have a few external sources makes it a heavier research load, but this is balanced by no discussion forum posts. RUBRIC, RUBRIC, RUBRIC. By now this should be a common theme, but you’re writing for a rubric so make sure you’re following what it wants because the two paper requirements are NOT the same, and requirements from different professors also vary. You also get a pretty generous extra credit for creating a very simple video introducing yourself in the first week so DO IT.
Time Commitment – 12-18 hours/week. More extensive external source material requirements makes it a little more time consuming than MADM 760.
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 12:07 am
Posted on 11/9/18 at 7:48 am to baroqen
Baroquen, thanks for writing these up! Your reviews are well written and well thought out!
(Why do I feel like I'm writing a Moodle discussion forum response for a grade...?)
I have to say that I reaaaalllly regret going with Meeks. His version of MADM 760 is giving James' MKT 710 a run for its money. I'm easily spending 2-3x of the time you are spending on McLaughlin's version. So far this week in Meeks' course:
* I've read about 90 pages of required content across two books
* Watched roughly 2.5 hours of required and optional video content
* Researched about 10 different sources for the course business case (all from non-native English speaking writers due to the nature of the business case)
* Created 12 PowerPoint slides (synthesized from just 2 slides of Meek's "Socratic" questions) for this week's group assignment
* Wrote 3500+ words for this week's "Skill Builder" assignment (I was up until 1 am last night to complete it).
* Still need to record a group Zoom discussion with very specific requirements and submit the video and group PowerPoint
* Beginning work on the Final Project (bare minimum 4000 words, plus a 700-word minimum abstract, plus a minimum of 11 references)
I should add that in an email from Meeks this week, he proceeded to shame many in the course by reporting the average word count for last week's assignment and informing everyone who wrote under that count that they are performing "below average." He also announced that he is a generous benefactor and is grading leniently for just that assignment. Obviously, he has some degree of rubric in his head beyond the rubric he documents. To his credit, it sounds like there is a large proportion of participants having trouble putting in the work. In the classes' defense, his directions are disorganized and single "questions" or "topics" for writing are usually 5-8 part questions in disguise.
Sorry. I had to vent. I feel better
(Why do I feel like I'm writing a Moodle discussion forum response for a grade...?)
I have to say that I reaaaalllly regret going with Meeks. His version of MADM 760 is giving James' MKT 710 a run for its money. I'm easily spending 2-3x of the time you are spending on McLaughlin's version. So far this week in Meeks' course:
* I've read about 90 pages of required content across two books
* Watched roughly 2.5 hours of required and optional video content
* Researched about 10 different sources for the course business case (all from non-native English speaking writers due to the nature of the business case)
* Created 12 PowerPoint slides (synthesized from just 2 slides of Meek's "Socratic" questions) for this week's group assignment
* Wrote 3500+ words for this week's "Skill Builder" assignment (I was up until 1 am last night to complete it).
* Still need to record a group Zoom discussion with very specific requirements and submit the video and group PowerPoint
* Beginning work on the Final Project (bare minimum 4000 words, plus a 700-word minimum abstract, plus a minimum of 11 references)
I should add that in an email from Meeks this week, he proceeded to shame many in the course by reporting the average word count for last week's assignment and informing everyone who wrote under that count that they are performing "below average." He also announced that he is a generous benefactor and is grading leniently for just that assignment. Obviously, he has some degree of rubric in his head beyond the rubric he documents. To his credit, it sounds like there is a large proportion of participants having trouble putting in the work. In the classes' defense, his directions are disorganized and single "questions" or "topics" for writing are usually 5-8 part questions in disguise.
Sorry. I had to vent. I feel better
Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:07 am to GeauxUF
Re-reading Meek's rubric, I should add a disclaimer for those in MADM 760 about to correct me:
For the final paper, the "minimums" that Meeks' puts in the actual assignment (2500 words, additional 250-word abstract, 150 words per section of his template, and 5 references) are the absolute bare minimum to avoid failure. Meeks is also very clear that if you fail the final paper, he renders all of the previous work performed in the course null and void and you fail the entire course. According to the rubric, if you meet these minimums, you can expect a grade in the 60% - 70% range.
The expectations to get an A on the paper (which are what I consider to be the real "minimums") are 4000 words, an additional 700-word abstract, 250 words per section of the template, and 11 references.
For the final paper, the "minimums" that Meeks' puts in the actual assignment (2500 words, additional 250-word abstract, 150 words per section of his template, and 5 references) are the absolute bare minimum to avoid failure. Meeks is also very clear that if you fail the final paper, he renders all of the previous work performed in the course null and void and you fail the entire course. According to the rubric, if you meet these minimums, you can expect a grade in the 60% - 70% range.
The expectations to get an A on the paper (which are what I consider to be the real "minimums") are 4000 words, an additional 700-word abstract, 250 words per section of the template, and 11 references.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:48 am to GeauxUF
Wow... that sounds like fun... I'm so envious... errr... you're so lucky that you got a spot in Meeks' class?
I'm a bit stunned at the demand of that class? Why is he also held as a paragon of the program? Well, I suppose just like I wrote regarding Shaughnessy, being a gold standard doesn't necessarily mean easy, but that certainly sounds brutal.
I would have chosen Meeks along with you except the group work killed it for me. Even if I didn't utterly despise working with the typically worthless group, my time zone difference would make it nearly impossible to do so. I guess I was really fortunate.
There's still quite a lot of reading for McLaughlin's class, but it's one book that's surprisingly well written. I'm sorry you're getting hammered in your class, I don't envy you. Perhaps more people need to clarify about the demands of Meeks' MADM 760 so others don't walk into it like you did... blindly following the glowing recommendations from others.
I guess I really have to thank Lutzhill for outlining McLaughlin's course. Shout out to Lutzhill!
I'm a bit stunned at the demand of that class? Why is he also held as a paragon of the program? Well, I suppose just like I wrote regarding Shaughnessy, being a gold standard doesn't necessarily mean easy, but that certainly sounds brutal.
I would have chosen Meeks along with you except the group work killed it for me. Even if I didn't utterly despise working with the typically worthless group, my time zone difference would make it nearly impossible to do so. I guess I was really fortunate.
There's still quite a lot of reading for McLaughlin's class, but it's one book that's surprisingly well written. I'm sorry you're getting hammered in your class, I don't envy you. Perhaps more people need to clarify about the demands of Meeks' MADM 760 so others don't walk into it like you did... blindly following the glowing recommendations from others.
I guess I really have to thank Lutzhill for outlining McLaughlin's course. Shout out to Lutzhill!
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:25 am to baroqen
quote:
Wow... that sounds like fun... I'm so envious... errr... you're so lucky that you got a spot in Meeks' class?
Two down votes already, looks like you angered Meeks' 760 class.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:46 am to jrduck143
I finished the program with a finance concentration. Choi is great. The class was not difficult for me.
I also took Meeks. great class and a lot of work, but hey, its grad school.
I also took Meeks. great class and a lot of work, but hey, its grad school.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:28 pm to GeauxUF
I took Meeks for two classes. He isn't actually writing those e-mails in real time. They are the same e-mails he sends to every class and they are released at predetermined intervals. No matter which class of his you take, you get the same thing. They have one purpose in mind- to get you work harder and write more, no matter what level you are. IF you write x number of words, you make a particular bonus amount over the 100%. If you write under it, you don't get full points. You only think your invested and weighted words matter. But, you could write:
Mary Beth went to the market to purchase a young lamb, a little lamb- one that is not too large. She wanted to make sure it was pure white- like that of snow - because the whiter the lamb, the more she could get for its fleece. The lamb followed Mary everywhere she went. I mean everywhere she went. Everywhere she went, the lamb was sure to go. It went to school three times, and played with the children....
IF you wrote that, you would get more points than just the lyrics to Mary had a little lamb.
And, nobody would even read it. But, you would be proud of your clever effort and the instructor has hopes that making you do more than you first intended means that you actually learned something.
Mary Beth went to the market to purchase a young lamb, a little lamb- one that is not too large. She wanted to make sure it was pure white- like that of snow - because the whiter the lamb, the more she could get for its fleece. The lamb followed Mary everywhere she went. I mean everywhere she went. Everywhere she went, the lamb was sure to go. It went to school three times, and played with the children....
IF you wrote that, you would get more points than just the lyrics to Mary had a little lamb.
And, nobody would even read it. But, you would be proud of your clever effort and the instructor has hopes that making you do more than you first intended means that you actually learned something.
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:43 pm to BusinessKnight
quote:
I took Meeks for two classes. He isn't actually writing those e-mails in real time. They are the same e-mails he sends to every class and they are released at predetermined intervals. No matter which class of his you take, you get the same thing. They have one purpose in mind- to get you work harder and write more, no matter what level you are. IF you write x number of words, you make a particular bonus amount over the 100%. If you write under it, you don't get full points. You only think your invested and weighted words matter. But, you could write:
Mary Beth went to the market to purchase a young lamb, a little lamb- one that is not too large. She wanted to make sure it was pure white- like that of snow - because the whiter the lamb, the more she could get for its fleece. The lamb followed Mary everywhere she went. I mean everywhere she went. Everywhere she went, the lamb was sure to go. It went to school three times, and played with the children....
IF you wrote that, you would get more points than just the lyrics to Mary had a little lamb.
And, nobody would even read it. But, you would be proud of your clever effort and the instructor has hopes that making you do more than you first intended means that you actually learned something.
This is really interesting. So if I'm understanding correctly, Meeks weights the word count so heavily that purposely writing as much filler as you can boosts your grade over 100%?
He purposely sets up the participants tab so you can only see your own group and not how many people are in the class. He also doesn't outwardly appear to use "coaches" for grading like some other classes. How closely is he actually grading these writing assignments?
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:48 pm to GeauxUF
Geaux
There is no humanly possible way for him to read everyone's stuff. He does use technology to flag things, but if you search this forum, you can find where people admitted to just writing a bunch of nonsense and he had no idea. I am not advocating it. I actually enjoyed his classes to the point that I put in the real work. But, I knew I was doing it for my own pleasure and growth, which is fine for me because that is why I took on the MBA adventure anyway.
I will also add that I learned a lot in both of the classes from the volume of material. They were interesting topics and his teaching video material is actually useful in real life.
But, the writing part of it can be busy work.
There is no humanly possible way for him to read everyone's stuff. He does use technology to flag things, but if you search this forum, you can find where people admitted to just writing a bunch of nonsense and he had no idea. I am not advocating it. I actually enjoyed his classes to the point that I put in the real work. But, I knew I was doing it for my own pleasure and growth, which is fine for me because that is why I took on the MBA adventure anyway.
I will also add that I learned a lot in both of the classes from the volume of material. They were interesting topics and his teaching video material is actually useful in real life.
But, the writing part of it can be busy work.
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