BusinessKnight

23 of the last 33.
16 of the last 20.
9 of the last 10.

And that doesn't include Texas or Auburn's screw job, or 1984 Gators who would have pounded champs BYU.

Go back one more year and add UGA for 1980, or two more and add Bama for 1979.

Wow.

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Thought we were talking about college?

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As directly as can be compared. But, in college, McFadden wasn't good enough to keep his team in the top 25. Think about it. A modern era greatest RB of all time but not good enough to be a top 25 team? The others in the list were basically all the offense those teams had and they put their teams on their backs and won or contended for championships, much more difficult than being in the top 25. McFadden had some yards. But so what. Their backup averaged over 9 yards per carry his senior year as their OL was one of the best in the country. Yet, not top 25. There were a lot of reasons why McFadden didn't win the H trophy. Everyone acknowledged he was good, productive, and had some special games against non-top defensive teams. Almost no one acknowledged he was one of the best of all time outside of Arkansas fans.

We enjoyed some great RB's that 10 year period including 3 of the top RB's in SEC history in Herschel, Bo, and Emmitt in an overlapping span of 5 years.

Not to mention some SEC and NFL greats that came out of that period such as Jams Brooks, Neal Anderson, John L. Williams, James Jones, Lionel Train. Then by the mid-90's we had the likes of Kevin Faulk, Fred Taylor, Shaun Alexander.

1980-82 - Herschel
1982-85 - Bo Knows, Hilliard
1985-88 - Humphrey
1987-89 - Emmitt
1990-92 - Hearst
1990-93 - Rhett

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Don't beat yourself up. Do the opposite. Build yourself up. Freeze her out and think of her as what she is: a trashy arse untrustworthy whore. That will make it easier. Remember. Build yourself up. Learn and move on. Nice move on the tracking device. Caught that whore red handed.

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Thank you. Yes, I need to see her for who she really is and not who I thought she was.

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I was in a similar situation a few years ago. It was the first time that I cared enough about someone to not be as selfish as I was. Instead of taking care of my needs, I brushed them off to make sure I stayed in her good graces. After 5 years, I had enough of it and moved out. She had another dude living and sleeping in our bed within a few months. It was the most hurt I've ever been. My advice is to get a therapist you trust and go for it. Try to move on and learn from it. It's taken me some time but I've found someone who is way better to me and for me, but I could have only found it with working out my issues and "forgiving" her for what I thought were relationship ending issues. Also, you need to be upfront and clear with your family. When she contacts you again, which she will, you need to stay strong and not go for that one more time sex.

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Thank you for sharing your experience and the good advice. Yes, I cared about her more than I probably should have and put her needs ahead of mine and tried to stay in her good graces as you put it, also. She should have been trying to stay in my good graces but she didn't care enough, apparently.

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You didn't ask what to do, but I'm gonna tell you what to do anyway. 1. Make sure all of her shite is out of your house. If she has a separate place, make sure all of your shite is out of her place. If she won't come get it, throw it out. Even something as trivial as a t-shirt. Get it ALL out of your house. She's likely the type of person that will reach out to you in a few months wanting her shirt back only to use that as an excuse to weasel her way back into your life with sex. 2. Cease all attempts to contact her. Block her number in your phone, and ask your family to cease all contact with her. If they refuse, tell them not to mention her to you. 3. Move on with your life. I'm guessing she's the type that gets off on her exes contacting her, and though you say she's blocked your number, your family still in contact with her is giving her that attention she wants. The minute that stops, it's going to drive her crazy. She may show up at your house. She may unblock you in hopes of you texting her. She may reach out to you through other avenues. Ignore them all. It's okay to be heartbroken and still have feelings for her, but the sooner you admit it's over and cease worrying about her, the better off you will be.

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This is good. Thank you.

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Beautiful women are just as addictive as drugs and every bit as dangerous.

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Indeed. I am pretty sure I am addicted to her based on my inability to cut her loose early on.

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He loves an idealized version of her that never actually existed. I’ve been there. It sucks. You have to reframe this as a net positive and that you’re pining over someone who wasn’t real, ie the person you thought she was not the person she actually is.

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I really think this is correct. I've started calling her "fantasy {her name here} when I talk about her and distinguish who I love vs who she really is.

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Why the hell is your family still talking to her? That’s bull shite

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Yep, I hope they will stop talking to her. All I can say is that everyone thought we were an awesome couple and they really loved her. She has a lot of great qualities and developed highly integrated relationships. We were a popular topic in our family. While they knew she cheated, they probably want us to get back together and I haven't told them the extent of things. It is one of the reasons why this has been so difficult. A lot of hurt in both families. The minor kids are also real victims here. I was a father figure - the first real one - to her two minor kids.

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One of her adult sons? How many kids did she have before turning 21? You might need to edit this part of your true story

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Yep, she had her first out of wedlock when she was young. I really don't care if you believe me. It is true and I am glad to hear the feedback I am getting because it is helping me realize even more that I am better off now, and that I lost myself for a while.

Well, I am writing this mostly to just express myself and "tell somebody". But, you might have a similar thing happen to you. If so, I would like to know I am not alone.

{EDIT: The comments are really helpful. Some of you have great advice. Thank you. Even the brutal ones are helpful. Keep them coming. It is helping me realize I am better off and I need to get myself back}

Short version:
My really hot fiance left me for good because she found out I used surveillance to discover that she is a slut. While many of you might have "hotwife" fantasies, she was a "hotwife" behind my back with numerous people and that isn't ok.

The less-short version:
We are in our late 40's. We were very much in love. I knew she was very sexually active in her single life. She grew up with low self-esteem and she self-medicated with bad relationships. She told me she wanted to settle down and I was the only one for her- that she finally found someone to spend the rest of her life with who had great character, took care of her, and didn't treat her like she is merely a piece of meat. She is a catch. Or, so I thought. I am a really great guy and a catch, too. We had our wedding planned. We were together for two years. She lived with me for a year. We had a really hot sex life. We had a happy life. We integrated our families and kids. We did everything together and we had a lot of fun together. She seemed really happy. One of her adult sons told me he has never seen his mom this happy and he is glad she is finally with someone who treats her well.

During Covid, she got laid off from her job and was unemployed for several months. I never worked from home and went into the office everyday. So, she had a lot of free time.

But, she was always getting texts notifications on her phone from men and it never slowed down or stopped. All the time. And it was distracting from my peace of mind. She wouldn't bock her exes. I asked her about it and she told me that she will always be friends with her exes and that she is not doing anything with them other than being friends. Then I noticed she wasn't getting as many regular text messages but she was always on her phone and I could not really see what apps she was on, but from what I could see, they did not appear to be any apps I have on my phone. I started noticing things that are not usually suspicious but could be scenarios that facilitate cheating. Her stories didn't add up. I tried several times and ways to talk to her about it. The result was always negative and we just could not make any headway. She wouldn't show me her phone. She would always say that I needed to trust her.

I couldn't stand it anymore. I had to know the truth. So, I put a tracker on her car. She had strange patterns. Gas station parking lots for 20 minutes. Big box store parking lots for 6 hours while I was at work. Restaurants. Being out soon after I left for work and home a little before I got home. Weird places. Then, she was at one of her exes' house for 10 hours while I was out of town on business. I decided to borrow a friend's car and went to where the tracker showed her being parked. I did this several times over a period of two months. When her vehicle was parked for several hours. I sat there in the parking lot for several hours. I took a lot of time off work. In those cases, she was dropped off by men (so she was picked-up by them earlier that day and spent the day with them). I never caught her at a gas station lot because she wasn't there long enough for me to get to those. I assume she was doing quickies, but maybe someone here knows how that works at a gas station lot. Is that a common meet-up place or a prostitute type thing? Is that a common thing?

Anyway, I filmed her making out with men. I took pictures of her leaving restaurants arm in arm with men and kissing "good bye til next time" make out sessions as they escort her to her car and close her door before she drives away. I would ask her about her day and activities and learn how she lies and how she navigates lying and started to see her verbal and body language lying cues. Turns out, she lies all the time. It was brutal.

Then, I said something that revealed that I knew about a lot of her behavior. She started sleeping in a different bedroom to punish me for not trusting her. She then moved back in the bedroom with me and she actually abated her activities. Almost no suspicious activities. She got a job and started having a regular routine.

Then one her "friends" found the tracker on her car at lunch. She confronted me about it but, she still didn't admit her activities and insisted she is just friends with all these men and hangs out and was bored staying at home. She wouldn't speak to me for 2 weeks and moved back into the spare bedroom. Then, on a Thursday, she tells me she is moving out the next day and it is over. So, she left because I "don't trust her." Well, she is not trustworthy.

But, I still love her. And, for some reason, I am heart-broken when I should be really pissed at her. I know I will move past this, but I look back and see so many scenarios where now I think she was screwing around.

She still texts with my family. But, she has blocked me. So, she won't block her exes. But, she has blocked me, whom she was engaged to. She told my mom that I really hurt her by tracking her. Whatever. She takes no responsibility for her actions. And, me tracking her only proved what she was doing.

She had her son tell me I was a stalker and if I followed her or bothered her or tried to communicate with her, they would have me arrested.

So, it is a really painful state of affairs right now.

Anyone else have something like this happen?