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re: The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office cancels the Redskins trademark
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:51 am to ballscaster
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:51 am to ballscaster
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Don't be a dipshit. The word is offensive. The dictionary says that the word is offensive. I am correct in saying that. The dictionary proves me to be correct. Third Leg posted such evidence a page or two ago. And you're fighting tooth and nail for this.
Offensive does not equal racist. We're talking about two different definitions.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:51 am to ballscaster
quote:You completely missed the point. People are attached to the word because it's the name of the team. They don't care or even think about the "meaning" of the word, because it's lost it's meaning long ago. It's their team's identity.
So prove it and let it go.
Like the Los Angeles Lakers. If the Lakers decided to change the name of the team, the fans would have a fit. Not because they care about lakes. And the name doesn't even make sense for Los Angeles. But the name is their identity. Their team is the Lakers. That's the team.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:52 am to jacks40
quote:I don't know the origin of the word. It might have been a perfectly acceptable term back when the team was formed for all I know.
If?
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:53 am to PrimeTime Money
I think people are just weary of applying modern, hipster-progressivism to old things that have achieved independent significance.
People fighting 50 year old war monuments because it's in the shape of a cross, people arguing that westerns with anti-Indian overtones are offensive, people trying to change definitions of marriage or genders, people trying to change the name of old sports teams, etc.
It's just a dumb and cumbersome waste of time.
People fighting 50 year old war monuments because it's in the shape of a cross, people arguing that westerns with anti-Indian overtones are offensive, people trying to change definitions of marriage or genders, people trying to change the name of old sports teams, etc.
It's just a dumb and cumbersome waste of time.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:55 am to Pettifogger
quote:That's a good way of putting it. "Independent significance".
I think people are just weary of applying modern, hipster-progressivism to old things that have achieved independent significance.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:09 am to Pettifogger
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The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office cancels the Redskins trademark I think people are just weary of applying modern, hipster-progressivism to old things that have achieved independent significance. People fighting 50 year old war monuments because it's in the shape of a cross, people arguing that westerns with anti-Indian overtones are offensive, people trying to change definitions of marriage or genders, people trying to change the name of old sports teams, etc. It's just a dumb and cumbersome waste of time.
This statement describes virtually all public discourse, as framed by privately owned and controlled media.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:46 am to hendersonshands
Keep your name screw the U S government
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:51 am to Pettifogger
quote:Wasn't this brought up by 5 Native American groups?
A non-issue played up almost entirely by white people just will not die.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:40 pm to shel311
When does the patent office go ater Green Bay?
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:42 pm to Pettifogger
For those who don't know
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Offensive does not equal racist.
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Offensive does not equal racist.
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Offensive does not equal racist.
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Offensive does not equal racist.
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Offensive does not equal racist.
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Offensive does not equal racist.
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Offensive does not equal racist.
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Offensive does not equal racist.
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Offensive does not equal racist.
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Offensive does not equal racist.
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Offensive does not equal racist.
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Offensive does not equal racist.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:54 pm to JG77056
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What if they just changed the name to the Dirty Scalping Savages? That doesn't apply really to any one group
I have found very little evidence that the origin of the term Redskin refers to this.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:55 pm to hendersonshands
The way I see it Dan Snyder has a couple of moves:
1. Move the team to Talledega and keep the name redskins (except I would change the mascot to resemble Hank Hill with a really bad sunburn)
2. Move the team to Boise and again keep the name redskins. The mascot would be a big fricking red potato (add in some corn stalks if I really want to be a dick)
If I had Snyders resources, I would consider doing either as a big frick you to all involved (but the fricking redskin moniker would remain).
1. Move the team to Talledega and keep the name redskins (except I would change the mascot to resemble Hank Hill with a really bad sunburn)
2. Move the team to Boise and again keep the name redskins. The mascot would be a big fricking red potato (add in some corn stalks if I really want to be a dick)
If I had Snyders resources, I would consider doing either as a big frick you to all involved (but the fricking redskin moniker would remain).
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:03 pm to ThinePreparedAni
Cleveland Indians you've been put on notice. You're next! fricking racists.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:06 pm to PrimeTime Money
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I don't know the origin of the word. It might have been a perfectly acceptable term back when the team was formed for all I know.
Here is an actual study on the terms origin.
LINK
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:22 pm to ballscaster
This is one of the most idiotic non issues out there. My thing is why is it just now offensive? Has the team had this brought up in past decades or when they were created?
The NFL should give a big to lawmakers by calling them the Washington Senators with a logo of a congressman running around with bags of money like a reverse Robin Hood.
The NFL should give a big to lawmakers by calling them the Washington Senators with a logo of a congressman running around with bags of money like a reverse Robin Hood.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:39 pm to hendersonshands
I like Snyders response which was basically "This shite again? Go frick yourselves."
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:47 pm to Starchild
quote:This has been going on for a looooooong time, not just the last year or 2.
My thing is why is it just now offensive?
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:56 pm to Byron Bojangles III
No one is saying that offensive and racist are the same thing, though "redskin" is a racial slur that is defined by current American dictionaries as "offensive," "disparaging," and "insulting."
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:56 pm to Starchild
quote:Then let it go.
This is one of the most idiotic non issues out there.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:21 pm to hendersonshands
I knew I should have bought a Redskins cap when I had the chance. Washington Black Bears has a nice ring to it.
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