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re: Chicago Cubs Super Prospect Futureboner Sploosh Emporium Thread | Maddon Thread
Posted on 7/22/14 at 9:39 am to piggidyphish
Posted on 7/22/14 at 9:39 am to piggidyphish
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BUST!
For real, should've traded up to get Appel.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 9:56 am to MasterBetty
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For real, should've traded up to get Appel.
Seriously, that'd have solved that 'oh my gerd, cubs got no pitching' problem.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:09 am to piggidyphish
quote:I'm going to say that this is actually good to see. I know it's a small sample, but he's seeing advanced pitching in AAA as opposed to "throwers" in AA. This is a very minor slump, but let's watch him adjust and admire his godliness.
so are we not going to talk about bryant's 'slump?'
.250/.333/.594 w/ 11Ks, 4 BBs, 3 HRs & 2 2Bs in last 8 games.
BUST!
Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:13 am to The Sad Banana
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I'm going to say that this is actually good to see. I know it's a small sample, but he's seeing advanced pitching in AAA as opposed to "throwers" in AA. This is a very minor slump, but let's watch him adjust and admire his godliness.
Oh yea, struggling is part of the game, he hadn't (not since that 5K night 1 year ago), and it'll be good for him. I think it's funny it's coming on the heels of boras taking to the media saying that the cubs should promote him.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:15 am to piggidyphish
I think Boras should shut the hell up because he's not a part of the Cubs organization.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:20 am to The Sad Banana
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I think Boras should shut the hell up because he's not a part of the Cubs organization.
No shite...you want him up so badly boras...well do this then, go against what you've always done, and approach the cubs about signing an extension early. Of course everyone knows he doesn't advise his clients to do that, so sorry if they're going to 'play the game' also Boras. And while you're at it, knock off the 'i can't believe the cubs aren't spending money (on my clients), they must be a small market club' feigned outrage and concern for the fan.
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 10:20 am
Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:21 am to piggidyphish
I think we both can just drop the mic and walk offstage on that note (regarding Boras).
Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:35 am to The Sad Banana
iCubs face Andrew Heaney tonight. Should be one of the better pitchers they have faced, even though Heaney has been struggling.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:46 am to GynoSandberg
So let me see if I understand this. If they call up Bryant now, it will count as a season played, resulting in his contract being up a year early? I'm not up to snuff on how the transition works. And why is Baez & Soler different? I always just assumed when you were ready, it's go time
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:00 am to Schmelly
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So let me see if I understand this. If they call up Bryant now, it will count as a season played, resulting in his contract being up a year early?
Yes. And then there is super 2 for arbitration purposes which is likely why he won't break camp with the cubs next year either.
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nd why is Baez & Soler different?
Baez isn't, except that he's not a Boars client so it's quite possible he'd sign an extension/contract (think longoria here)
Soler was an international signing, so he's already under a defined year contract for a set price so he doesn't have any service time things that would start/stall his clock.
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I always just assumed when you were ready, it's go time
If a team is good/in a race typically that's the case. but when playing in a lost season having an extra year of control over a player means more if the window of competitiveness is opening later.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:03 am to piggidyphish
Gotcha. But what's super 2?
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:12 am to Schmelly
Also, Soler is already on the 40-man roster and is making money. He literally needs to be on the fast track. That's why we are pining for him to stay healthy. The sooner the better (although, not too soon so that it undermines his development).
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:13 am to piggidyphish
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'i can't believe the cubs aren't spending money (on my clients), they must be a small market club' feigned outrage and concern for the fan.
Sounds like he's been reading too much Telander & Wittenmeyer
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:15 am to Schmelly
Typically a player is eligible for arbitration after 3 years, but if a player has 2 years of service and is in the top 22% of players who are between 2 and 3 years service then they get to go to arbitration after 2 years. Or that's my understanding, and i'd be lying if i said i really had a grasp on it. I just repeat what more savvy baseball guys say.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 12:13 pm to Schmelly
Law did a mid-season re-rank of farm systems. Cubs #1.
I don't do insider, so i took this from BN but it's still fantastic
I don't do insider, so i took this from BN but it's still fantastic
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I know Cubs fans have heard this before, but just wait ’til next year, because this club is going to get good in a hurry, at least on the run-scoring side of the ledger
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 7/22/14 at 12:16 pm to piggidyphish
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Law did a mid-season re-rank of farm systems. Cubs #1.
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1. Chicago Cubs
I know Cubs fans have heard this before, but just wait 'til next year, because this club is going to get good in a hurry, at least on the run-scoring side of the ledger. The system already had the minors' best collection of high-end bats, and it added several more during the past seven weeks, including the fourth-best prospect in the minors in shortstop Addison Russell, who came over with promising left fielder Billy McKinney in the Jeff Samardzija trade with the Athletics.
The Cubs also added catcher/left fielder Kyle Schwarber with the fourth overall pick in this year's draft. It's a pick I think was an overdraft in part due to doubts he will stick at either position, but he has raked so far in limited at-bats, mostly against younger competition. They used the savings on Schwarber's bonus to grab several high-upside high school arms later in the draft, including right-hander Dylan Cease, whose elbow ligament injury might require Tommy John surgery but who was seen as a top-15 pick talent before his injury. Cease has a fastball that can touch 100 mph and at times a plus breaking ball. The Cubs also have some promising hitters on their AZL club (rookie league) from their Latin American spending spree in 2013, including bonus babies Gleyber Torres (from Venezuela) and Eloy Jimenez (from the Dominican Republic), both just 17 years old.
These infusions have helped balance out a few disappointments in the system of players I ranked highly coming out of last year. Albert Almora has been a disappointment (.306 OBP in high Class A), continuing his record of awful walk rates in pro ball to date. C.J. Edwards and Pierce Johnson, their top two arms going into the season, both have missed substantial time with injuries; Edwards is still on the shelf, and Johnson hasn't been effective at Double-A when healthy. Jeimer Candelario, whose only tool was his bat, hasn't hit at two levels and is about to be buried by the wave of infield prospects ahead of him. Scott Frazier, their sixth-round pick last year, appears to have the yips, with 12 walks and four hit batsmen in 22 batters faced.
Most of the successful arms in the system this year have been pitchers at low-Class A Kane County, particularly undersized Taiwanese right-hander Tseng Jen-Ho and 2012 draftee Paul Blackburn, which means the Cubs probably won't get the starting pitching help they need from their system in the next year or two. Fortunately for them and their fans, they have the bats to trade to acquire pitching from outside the organization.
This has to be the most loaded the Cubs' farm has been in at least 30 years.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 12:21 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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This has to be the most loaded the Cubs' farm has been in at least 30 years.
My knowledge of the cubs farm system prior to mid-hendry years is admittedly zero, but it seems that last comment by law was a no brainier.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 1:49 pm to piggidyphish
When Theo and Jed took over I think the Cubs top prospect was Brett Jackson.
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 7/22/14 at 2:08 pm to piggidyphish
Well, there was a point in time where Felix Pie was pretty much considered the #1 Cubs prospect for a while.
That was not fun.
That was not fun.
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