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re: Aborted Babies from Canada being burned and used for power... UPDATE on Page 6
Posted on 4/24/14 at 7:17 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
Posted on 4/24/14 at 7:17 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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The fetus is NOT incinerated to GENERATE power. Power is used to incinerate. And, it is happening everywhere. This place simply uses the heat energy that is EXPENDED to incinerate and recapture a part of it.
It's honestly that simple, they are just using the heating source at the power plant as a means to incinerate medical waste. The company isn't burning nothing but aborted fetuses, the heating source is burning with or without the fetuses, they are just selling services to incinerate medical waste which would be incinerated at another site in their heating source for their boiler.
People are reading way to into this. Are you pissed off whenever the fetuses are incinerated at say a funeral home cremetory? If the answer to that question is "no" then you shouldn't be upset about this. Same thing, different location.
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 7:28 am
Posted on 4/24/14 at 7:19 am to Choctaw
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It's people. Soylent Green is made out of people.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 7:23 am to Scrowe
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they are just using the heating source at the power plant as a means to incinerate medical waste.
Wait a minute, do you mean to tell me they're burning GALL BLADDERS for fuel???
I think I'm going to be sick.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 7:25 am to WildTchoupitoulas
I didn't realize how pure evil so many of you were.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:39 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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I didn't realize how pure evil so many of you were.
People who believe in "evil" are dangerous.
Those who believe in evil will justify all manner of horrors to combat what they define as 'evil'.
If you see burning gall bladders for heat as a good thing, don't judge me as "evil" because I don't.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:54 am to Jcorye1
So why not just burn all dead bodies for electricity...
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:55 am to EST
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So why not just burn all dead bodies for electricity...
Should at least be an option you could opt in to.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:58 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
As is often the case, the chopper jockey is dead on. This is no big deal. Fetuses are not being gathered for the purpose of firing a furnace even if the furnace in which the fetuses are incinerated are used to provide power. Notice I did not say that abortion is no big deal or that the abortion question is "settled." (Declaring an issue "setted" is a favorite method of our president to avoid arguing the merits of an issue).
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:07 am to anc
Practically, there's nothing wrong with what they're doing. Humanistically, though, I wonder what these types of practices does to the collective human conscience. I mean, is this the kind of devaluing of what we deem "human" that leads us to eventual social engineering or even the killing of 6 million Jews? Are there unintended consequences to looking at humans, even preformed humans, with value as a fuel source?
If the answer is even maybe yes, then simply burn them. Don't utilize them. There shouldn't be a desensitization and devaluing of humans in an effort to improve utility. You're not far from slavery or genocide when you reach that conclusion IMO, even if at first you don't realize it.
There is a debate right now at UMC Medical Center in Jackson about what to do with thousands of buried bodies from the State Lunatic Asylum dating back to 1855. They need to be moved to make room for expansion of important research facilities. One problem: It will cost $6 million to exhume the bodies and properly/respectfully relocate or cremate them.
These are bodies of people nobody claimed. Mentally ill people (back in those days thought to be possessed or any number of imaginative diagnoses) whose families simply dropped them off and certainly didn't claim them upon their death. The hospital had to do something with them.
The hospital, and the state, is now faced with an interesting choice of what to do. Do they bulldoze right over them and build over the top of them, or, unpractically, pay to have them exhumed?
If the answer is even maybe yes, then simply burn them. Don't utilize them. There shouldn't be a desensitization and devaluing of humans in an effort to improve utility. You're not far from slavery or genocide when you reach that conclusion IMO, even if at first you don't realize it.
There is a debate right now at UMC Medical Center in Jackson about what to do with thousands of buried bodies from the State Lunatic Asylum dating back to 1855. They need to be moved to make room for expansion of important research facilities. One problem: It will cost $6 million to exhume the bodies and properly/respectfully relocate or cremate them.
These are bodies of people nobody claimed. Mentally ill people (back in those days thought to be possessed or any number of imaginative diagnoses) whose families simply dropped them off and certainly didn't claim them upon their death. The hospital had to do something with them.
The hospital, and the state, is now faced with an interesting choice of what to do. Do they bulldoze right over them and build over the top of them, or, unpractically, pay to have them exhumed?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:19 am to Mohican
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Practically, there's nothing wrong with what they're doing. Humanistically, though, I wonder what these types of practices does to the collective human conscience.
They shouldn't effect our conscience at all. I don't get why we feel the need to revere the bio waste that is left over when we die. Huge tracts of land dedicated to the storage of our dead. Stone monuments to mark their storage location. Fancy wooden and metal boxes to store them in. Elaborate scientific processes that attempt to "preserve" the remains. It's archaic and frankly a little disturbing.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:27 am to Green Chili Tiger
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They shouldn't effect our conscience at all.
Shouldn't is different than don't. They may shouldn't effect our conscience... it doesn't mean they don't. And if they do even in the slightest bit, what effect does that have on society? I'm not a psychologist, just raising the question.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 12:17 pm to Mohican
So you see this and see Hitler with Jews? Slippery slope at its finest.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 12:26 pm to Jcorye1
This is just one more example of the continued moral decline of the western world. The sanctity of life is important. Once that fades, all is lost.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 12:29 pm to nvcowboyfan
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This is just one more example of the continued moral decline of the western world.
Please explain this, because if the fetuses were going to be incinerated anyhow, what difference does it make where the fire is located?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 12:31 pm to Scrowe
I, like many Catholics and christians, believe that life begins at conception. Fetus =/= skin biopsy
Posted on 4/24/14 at 12:32 pm to nvcowboyfan
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This is just one more example of the continued moral decline of the western world. The sanctity of life is important. Once that fades, all is lost.
AAAAAARH!!
Once again, I ask: What did/do you think happens to bio waste and aborted fetuses?
I am not arguing Pro Life v Abortion Choice. That is a separate thread. But, what do you think has been happening with the fetuses?
And, for those that keep saying "burn FOR fuel" stuff. just stop. It takes energy IN for the incineration. They are not "fire wood". The heat is used to incinerate AND heat water, etc.
It is just utilizing the heat that is being produced in order to incinerate for BOTH the incineration and the other use.
No one is standing around the campfire saying "fire is getting low...throw another fetus on there to get some more heat!"
Posted on 4/24/14 at 12:38 pm to nvcowboyfan
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I, like many Catholics and christians, believe that life begins at conception. Fetus =/= skin biopsy
The fetus is dead and is to be disposed of through incineration. This isn't a question of the right and wrong of abortion. The "mother" has chosen she doesn't want the fetus after the abortion. Again, I ask, what difference does it make whether it is incinerated at the funeral home or the power plant?
For the record, I am Catholic and believe that life begins at conception. This isn't about life, it's about a corpse and in some cases a severed corpse.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 12:45 pm to Scrowe
I happen to believe that a fetus deserves respect. This may seem quaint and archaic to you but that is what I believe. I realize that aborted fetuses get burned as waste ALL the time. I just don't think it is right. If I had my way I would give them a proper burial. I know this won't happen, I just believe it should.
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