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re: Sir and Ma'am..... Do you use it?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:10 am to WG_Dawg
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:10 am to WG_Dawg
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It's not about just politeness (that's some of it), it's about respect. A 10 year old talking to a 40 year old should show respect, and that is one of the easiest and most basic ways to do so.
I get that you guys think that, I'm just not following why those words show that. Honestly...I'm not being contrary just to be so. A child could say those words and clearly not mean them...or simply say yes ot no sincerely and respectful. Is one better than the other? Are both bad? Can an adult not determine from a child's behavior whether or not they respect them?
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I never said anything remotely like that. If an adult asks a child something, especially a child other than their own, and the response is "yeah" or "no", then yes that is showing a lack of respect.
I find yeah or nah fairly rude, and we stop that stuff...though not in front of other adults, at home. But why is "no" a disrespectful response to a yes or no question if the answer is given respectfully?
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An adult is often much older than a child.
Wasn't my point. I still use it in those situations because it was more ingrained in me when I was younger. It's a reflex in most cases. When it comes to parenting, I don't reflexively tell my boys what they should do. We've never told them saying that is mandatory, but have stressed the things I mentioned in my first post. Looking people in the eye when talking to them. Engaging them while they talk to you. Yes/no versus yeah/nah.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:19 am to Mike da Tigah
I'll teach my kids to use sir and ma'am. Once you reach a certain age though, it's not really appropriate or needed. I can understand addressing an elderly person this way, but honestly, most people these days are insulted if you address them this way because they see it as you acknowledging that they are old, even though the intention is to show respect.
I'd never address someone in the workplace this way. I would be laughed at.
I'd never address someone in the workplace this way. I would be laughed at.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:19 am to GeauxTigerTM
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A child could say those words and clearly not mean them
How could they "not mean" sir or maam? All that is is an address to someone older/a superior. You can't "not mean" saying sir.
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Can an adult not determine from a child's behavior whether or not they respect them?
Certainly. I never said that if a child doesn't say it they are automatically a bad child. It is one way to show respect, and in the South it's one of the most basic and widely recognized.
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But why is "no" a disrespectful response
I never said it was disrespectful. It's neutral, I supposed. I'm saying that saying sir/maam absolutely shows politeness/respect.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:22 am to GeauxTigerTM
quote:That is strike 2 for you in this thread. Say crayfish and I may have to find you and throw you back over the Mason Dixon
you guys
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:30 am to lsupride87
If you're raised in the south it comes with the territory.
I still do it...particularly with clients...no problems.
My kids are being raised to do the same.
I still do it...particularly with clients...no problems.
My kids are being raised to do the same.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:33 am to GeauxTigerTM
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, I don't reflexively tell my boys what they should do
What does this mean? Your boys never need correction immediately?
I respect all of your views, teach your children as you will, I don't care. But I see way too many parents that have grown to accept absolutely terrible behavior and seem to accept and basically defend it, taking all kinds of odd stances.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:56 am to NoNameNeeded
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people up north and out west will think you are basically a pushover or a beta wussy with an inferiority complex when they hear this and will try to walk all over you.
I call my dumb-arse Yankee customers sir and ma'am all the time. And they know I own their asses anyway. You must not be very good at manipulating a conversation. Most of the time, the Northern women tell me they wish men up there were as civil as those in the South.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:10 am to Mike da Tigah
I use it all the time
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:14 am to Mike da Tigah
I say sir and ma'am to everyone, including kids.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:16 am to Mike da Tigah
always, raised this way, die this way. Age doesn't matter.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:21 am to GetCocky11
I use m'lady when addressing women
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:24 am to Mike da Tigah
I do, but I got told not to by the people I'm addressing more often than not.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:32 am to goldennugget
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I use m'lady when addressing women
Do the long, stringy whiskers around your Adam's Apple itch a lot, sir?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:42 am to HornsLife
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I actually had a guy get mad because I called him sir. He said he isn't a Sir because he works for a living. I apologized for being raised with manners.
I've done the same. Say yes/no ma'am to my wife when the kids are around.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:43 am to Mike da Tigah
Not always, but sometimes
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:47 am to Mike da Tigah
I was raised to always use sir/and Ma'am,but there are times when it was Ok to relax it a little bit.Like if a conversation turned into joking around,and the respect was already made clear.
Too much formality could put a damper on those types of conversations, but always show the respect up front.
Too much formality could put a damper on those types of conversations, but always show the respect up front.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:52 am to Mike da Tigah
If you don't say it, you were raised wrong. I still say it to people older and younger than me. It is just how I was raised.
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