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re: Wikileaks Cables Confirm Existence of Extraterrestrial Life...
Posted on 4/21/14 at 8:50 pm to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 4/21/14 at 8:50 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Christians cant even handle evolution, you really think they'd cope well with aliens who've never heard of Jesus?
What if the aliens also worshipped a diety that was eerily similar to our own?
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:03 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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What if the aliens also worshipped a diety that was eerily similar to our own?
This would probably make me reconsider my current lack of faith, honestly.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:05 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Christians cant even handle evolution, you really think they'd cope well with aliens who've never heard of Jesus?
C.S. Lewis wrote a trilogy about this very thing 50 years ago. It's crazy that people think this would somehow be a massive blow to Christianity.
Also crazy is the level of hack coming from Roger. Getting close to Rex levels. Keep up the work bud, you might be number one in something for once in your life.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:07 pm to GumboPot
quote:I think they are called Wookiees in outer space.
Bigfoot driving a UFO.
Damn you Gumbo Pot!
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:07 pm to HempHead
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This would probably make me reconsider my current lack of faith, honestly.
Obviously you reject organized religion.
But how far do you take it?
Do you believe in no higher power, or do you just not believe in the idea that a bearded man in the clouds will send you to hell if you misbehave?
I can't understand atheists. I think for most atheists they reach their conclusion from a zero sum approach to the issue.
Someone famous once said something along the lines of the first sips out of the science cup make you an atheists, but at the bottom of the glass you'll find God.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:08 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Someone famous once said something along the lines of the first sips out of the science cup make you an atheists, but at the bottom of the glass you'll find God.
Heisenberg, check my sig quote. Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:09 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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do you just not believe in the idea that a bearded man in the clouds will send you to hell if you misbehave?
Beyond that, I make no conclusions. I am the universe made animate, looking back upon itself. An advanced ape, whose sentience was brought about by the laws of the universe. Who am I to say what caused this to be so?
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:13 pm to HempHead
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Who am I to say what caused this to be so?
That's why they call it faith bro. You don't have it. And that's fine. I personally find it hard to believe that something somewhere didn't have a hand all the wonders of the universe. I just simply can't wrap my head around the fact that it's all an accident. I understand an agnostic's POV, but to state as fact that there is no higher power is just as arrogant as a believer stating as fact that there is no extraterrestrial life out there.
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:15 pm to HempHead
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Beyond that, I make no conclusions. I am the universe made animate, looking back upon itself. An advanced ape, whose sentience was brought about by the laws of the universe. Who am I to say what caused this to be so?
I see where you're coming from, I think.
I agree, it would be arrogant to try and understand all of this, and to think we know the answers.
There is a song lyric (a local guy) it's about not knowing the answers, not believing in religion, but knowing and feeling the source.
Just having the awareness that there are higher powers.
Knowing that good and evil manifests in the soul, when we're good over a long period of time you can see it in the eyes, when we're bad it's the same thing.
I believe in the soul, I believe in some higher powers, I believe this is a designed dimension. It's too perfect and well constructed. Love is too special for there to be nothing but an empty abyss after death.
Not my best argument for this, I'm watching this Blues game.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:19 pm to TK421
who is to say there aren't multiple gods of multiple universes throughout existence? Just as there is one for ours (assuming you believe that a supernatural deity created you), why couldn't another have also created aliens in another dimension?
"In the beginning", the beginning of our universe maybe
"In the beginning", the beginning of our universe maybe
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:20 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Maybe they don't want us to know they're here.
then why do they visit in ships lighted like Christmas trees?
Alien life exists, but it's never been to Earth.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:20 pm to Sleeping Tiger
I've taken waaay too many psychedelics to not have questions, but at the same time I place doubts upon my own experience and subjectivity. How much of my feelings and intuitions are the result of neurochemistry and materialism, and what role does the universe (which, I suppose, I view as a god) play?
Rather than coming to conclusions, I just live my life, treat people well, and ponder mysteries when I have the time.
Rather than coming to conclusions, I just live my life, treat people well, and ponder mysteries when I have the time.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:48 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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What if the aliens also worshipped a diety that was eerily similar to our own?
If aliens from another planet show up worshipping a god similar to the christian one, I would seriously re-evaluate my stance on christianity because that would be very compelling objective evidence.
My question is, if aliens showed up worshipping Vishnu would christians re-evaluate their belief? I think most would not, and therein lies the difference.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:50 pm to HempHead
Hopefully the ETs will release a statement.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:55 pm to BayouBlitz
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The question is, does a technology exist that allows living beings to travel great distances in a short amount of time?
Yeah, no doubt something is out there but that whole Point A to Point B thing?
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:57 pm to KCT
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I've always found it odd that, even though alien spacecraft are supposedly spotted all the time, and some people even claim they have been abducted by aliens, for some unknown reason they have NEVER landed in some highly populated area where all doubt would immediately be removed.
Because if an alien civilization has mastered the science of intergalactic travel, im sure they are smart enough to not fricking do something as dumb as that.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:58 pm to TK421
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C.S. Lewis wrote a trilogy about this very thing 50 years ago. It's crazy that people think this would somehow be a massive blow to Christianity.
It depends entirely on what the aliens believe.
If they show up with all of their advanced technology still having belief in a deity, especially a deity we have also conceived on earth, that would be the most compelling modern evidence for God to date. Which God would dictate christianity's reaction, but it would validate a belief in God to some degree especially given that it would be a race far more advanced than us still believing.
If they unanimously didnt believe in God, or had evidence using their superior technology that God wasnt real, that would be a troubling proposition for churches for sure.
Ive read CS Lewis but dont remember anything about aliens, though Im sure Im forgetting.
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Also crazy is the level of hack coming from Roger. Getting close to Rex levels. Keep up the work bud, you might be number one in something for once in your life.
Whatever
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:02 pm to davesdawgs
Nothing in that article proves life on other planets or that we have been visited.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:04 pm to darkhorse
Of course it doesnt, you actually believed it would?
If aliens have the kind of technology that would be required to travel across the universe to get to us, I think its safe to say we are at their complete mercy. If they dont want to be found, they wont be.
If aliens have the kind of technology that would be required to travel across the universe to get to us, I think its safe to say we are at their complete mercy. If they dont want to be found, they wont be.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:15 pm to Roger Klarvin
Neil deGrasse Tyson had a good speech on it a while back.
He said something to the effect of, The difference between us(humans) and chimps is about 4% of our DNA. That 4% is responsible for our science, art, intelligence, and civilization. We think almost nothing of chimps and view them as simple animals, nothing compared to us other than 'smart-ish' creatures. Now imagine an alien civilization similar in that they are 4% different from us but in the opposite spectrum, 4% better than us in that respect. We'd be nothing to them. We could be to them as chimps are to us.
He said something to the effect of, The difference between us(humans) and chimps is about 4% of our DNA. That 4% is responsible for our science, art, intelligence, and civilization. We think almost nothing of chimps and view them as simple animals, nothing compared to us other than 'smart-ish' creatures. Now imagine an alien civilization similar in that they are 4% different from us but in the opposite spectrum, 4% better than us in that respect. We'd be nothing to them. We could be to them as chimps are to us.
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