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LA Times: Now its 12m newly insured
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:10 am
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:10 am
Citing a Gallup poll...
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WASHINGTON — President Obama's health law has led to an even greater increase in health coverage than previously estimated, according to new Gallup survey data, which suggests that about 12 million previously uninsured Americans have gained coverage since last fall.
That is millions more than Gallup found in March and suggests that as many as 4 million people have signed up for some kind of insurance in the last several weeks as the first enrollment period for the Affordable Care Act drew to a close.
Just 12.9% of adults nationally lacked coverage in the first half of April, initial data from the Gallup-Healthways Well-Being Index indicate. That's the lowest rate since the survey began in 2008.
Eighteen percent were uninsured in the third quarter of 2013, just before Americans could start shopping for coverage on the new online marketplaces created by the law.
Gallup pollsters cautioned that the data are preliminary but said it is increasingly clear the health law is responsible for the gains. "It is fair to say it is having a significant impact," said Dan Witters, the survey's research director.
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This post was edited on 4/17/14 at 8:30 am
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:18 am to Lsut81
This is very good news. It is important that these stories be told. Just goes to show how imbecilic those nasty, spiteful, hateful Republicans (who only want to see poor people die horribly painful deaths from getting nothing more than a common cold and then gleefully denying them health care) are.
Just getting it in there before Rex has a chance to.
/sarcasm
Just getting it in there before Rex has a chance to.
/sarcasm
This post was edited on 4/17/14 at 8:19 am
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:18 am to Lsut81
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it is increasingly clear the health law is responsible for the gains
Yeah, and here's why:
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Arkansas could save about $88 million in state tax dollars next year by adopting insurance-plan options that would encourage more lowwage public school employees to enroll in the state’s expanded Medicaid program, a consultant told state lawmakers on Wednesday.
Eric Helman, president of Atlanta-based Continuous Health LLC, said the state also could save about $36 million by limiting eligibility for coverage to employees who work at least 30 hours per week.
Most of the 4,700 parttime employees who would be affected by the proposals likely would qualify for Medicaid or other subsidized coverage under the federal health-care overhaul law, he said.
More leeches signing up, more taxpayers money to be collected to pay for it.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:21 am to Homesick Tiger
I cringe when I see that number keep going up and this is exactly why...
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More leeches signing up, more taxpayers money to be collected to pay for it.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:22 am to Lsut81
Why does Gallup have to poll this to get the numbers.
Can the insurance companies just release the hard numbers? Why is that so difficult?
Can the insurance companies just release the hard numbers? Why is that so difficult?
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:22 am to Homesick Tiger
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More leeches signing up, more taxpayers money to be collected to pay for it.
More leaches signing up....to buy insurance....because they were definitely paying for it before....
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:23 am to SSpaniel
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This is very good news.
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/sarcasm
Wait, is this bad news?
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:28 am to GumboPot
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Why does Gallup have to poll this to get the numbers.
Are you suggesting the most transparent administration ever would try to obscure the numbers?
What are you saying?
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:29 am to Chimlim
Haven't there been reports that after three years the subsidies will cease? If so, there will be a lot of pissed off leeches when the blood dries up.
Honestly, I can't hate on them too much, other than the fact that probably about 90% voted for OBO based on this almost free insurance they can get. The Democrats have mandated this law. They will have to live with it but we all will have to suffer from it eventually.
Honestly, I can't hate on them too much, other than the fact that probably about 90% voted for OBO based on this almost free insurance they can get. The Democrats have mandated this law. They will have to live with it but we all will have to suffer from it eventually.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:30 am to Lsut81
If the hard number was 12 million signed up, Obama and this administration would be holding prime time briefing, on all the talk shows, etc. They know the actual number is much less than expectations...
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:31 am to Homesick Tiger
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Haven't there been reports that after three years the subsidies will cease? If so, there will be a lot of pissed off leeches when the blood dries up.
Its the increase in Medicare subsidies to the states that stops in 3yrs...
That is the reason that a lot of the Governors refused to participate have used. Basically, the Feds will foot the bill for 3yrs and after that, the states are responsible for paying for the hundreds of thousands within their state who get free care.
This post was edited on 4/17/14 at 8:34 am
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:33 am to mtntiger
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Are you suggesting the most transparent administration ever would try to obscure the numbers?
What are you saying?
All I'm saying is make 4 phone calls to the insurance companies and ask a few questions about the numbers versus calling thousands of people and statistically extrapolating from those questions.
Just get the real numbers from the insurance companies. That's all.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:36 am to a want
quote:
Wait, is this bad news?
It's not true.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:36 am to Lsut81
And even more could be signed up if 24 states expanded their Medicaid programs like the law said they should but but SCOTUS said they did not have to. Then we might have more than 20 newly insured.
It would have also been helpful if more than 17 states had set up state exchanges instead of letting their citizens use the Federal website.
It would have also been helpful if more than 17 states had set up state exchanges instead of letting their citizens use the Federal website.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:37 am to Lsut81
And here in Ark. our Democrat governor is eating this shite up. Over 80% of those signed up here have been directed to Medicaid. Last I saw over 60,000 have signed up and been put on the Medicaid roles.
I hope I'm retired to D'Arbonne by the time the federal subsidies run out because people here are in for a rude awakening in three years.
I hope I'm retired to D'Arbonne by the time the federal subsidies run out because people here are in for a rude awakening in three years.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:39 am to GumboPot
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Can the insurance companies just release the hard numbers? Why is that so difficult?
Because enrollees are not what is important to the insurers, it is enrollees who pay their premiums that matter. Once the first premiums are paid, they will provide that data.
Plus, it would look bad for the Obama administration if the insurers say that X-number of people signed up, but a far lower number actually paid to be fully insured.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:40 am to Eurocat
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And even more could be signed up if 24 states expanded their Medicaid programs like the law said they should but but SCOTUS said they did not have to. Then we might have more than 20 newly insured.
Yeah, this could be politically disasterous for some of these governors. Docs, hospitals, etc are pissed, too...not to mention this move (which is 100% political) hurts their poorest of their citizens.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:40 am to Lsut81
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Its the increase in Medicare subsidies
I thought it was Medicaid?
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:43 am to Eurocat
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And even more could be signed up if 24 states expanded their Medicaid programs like the law said they should but but SCOTUS said they did not have to.
Yeah, and it would have been great if Obama would have enforced the law like he was supposed to.
Why the frick should the states expand coverage when it will end up costing them millions upon millions in 3yrs?
If you couldn't afford a house and someone said "I will give you a mansion for 3yrs, but after that, you have to pay 5k a month for it", when you only make 2k a month, would you do it?
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