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Obamacare and Cancer. It ain't pretty.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:22 pm
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Some of America's best cancer hospitals are off-limits to many of the people now signing up for coverage under the nation's new health care program.
Doctors and administrators say they're concerned. So are some state insurance regulators. An Associated Press survey found examples coast to coast.
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Before President Barack Obama's health care law, a cancer diagnosis could make you uninsurable. Now, insurers can't turn away people with health problems or charge them more. Lifetime dollar limits on policies, once a financial trap-door for cancer patients, are also banned. The new obstacles are more subtle.
To keep premiums low, insurers have designed narrow networks of hospitals and doctors. The government-subsidized private plans on the exchanges typically offer less choice than Medicare or employer plans. By not including a top cancer center an insurer can cut costs.
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The legislation contains provisions that directly target patients with cancer because their care is perceived as costly. These policies couldn’t be more badly timed.
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Insurers are barred from using the other tools that they’ve traditionally employed to keep the costs of policies in check: cost sharing, underwriting risk, adjusting premiums and benefits. The only thing that health plans are permitted to do under Obamacare is narrow the networks of providers that they contract with. So that’s precisely what they’re doing. By contracting with fewer providers, insurers can cheapen their coverage by clamping down on what doctors prescribe.
This will hit cancer patients especially hard.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:43 pm to La Place Mike
Forward mother frickers
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:49 pm to La Place Mike
This is fricking terrible. Somebody smart please get in and repeal this bitch.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:57 pm to La Place Mike
This can't really surprise anyone can it?
Posted on 3/31/14 at 11:14 pm to La Place Mike
Bunch of people in here that didn't read the bill obviously.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 11:46 pm to La Place Mike
I bet that crafty John Roberts still has a trick up his sleeve!!!
Posted on 3/31/14 at 11:52 pm to La Place Mike
FWIW, MD Anderson is on the Blue Cross provider list for the policies they offer through Healthcare.gov.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 12:43 am to Rickety Cricket
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John Roberts
Wins the Son of a Bitch of the Decade Award IMO.
I don't know how that shite-heel sleeps at night.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 5:05 am to Slinger16
I don't get the hate for Roberts it was basically his version of a Switch in Time that saved Nine, removed the court from the political process, and put the repeal of Obamacare (under President Paul) as a simple tax bill they can pass with just 50 senate voters in 2017.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:20 am to constant cough
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" Soylent Green is People!"
This post was edited on 4/1/14 at 7:21 am
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:23 am to Jim Rockford
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FWIW, MD Anderson is on the Blue Cross provider list for the policies they offer through Healthcare.gov.
Shhhh . . . don't spoil it for the others.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:29 am to Libertyabides71
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Stitch in Time that saved Nine
FIFY
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:33 am to VOR
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quote:FWIW, MD Anderson is on the Blue Cross provider list for the policies they offer through Healthcare.gov
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Shhhh . . . don't spoil it for the others.
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Seattle Cancer Care Alliance is excluded by five out of eight insurers in Washington's insurance exchange. MD Anderson Cancer Center says it's in less than half of the plans in the Houston area. Memorial Sloan-Kettering is included by two of nine insurers in New York City and has out-of-network agreements with two more.
In all, only four of 19 nationally recognized comprehensive cancer centers that responded to AP's survey said patients have access through all the insurance companies in their states' exchanges.
Hope this makes you feel better if you or yours ever need cancer treatment from MD.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:39 am to La Place Mike
My mom's best friend got diagnosed with breast cancer 5 years ago or so. Well one day her husband just up and quit his job (he is the kind that can't work for somebody else) and they lost insurance. Last time I was home she was over at the house talking about how great it was that she finally had insurance again and could start going to the doctor again. Then my mom said she called her doctor and they said that her insurance was accepted there. At first I was like toldya, but then I was like this shite is costing an arm and a leg and it isn't even covering ppl just giving them a card.
She still thinks it is the greatest thing since sliced bread though. :banghead:
She still thinks it is the greatest thing since sliced bread though. :banghead:
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:54 am to willthezombie
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She still thinks it is the greatest thing since sliced bread though
and there you have it, Obamacare is a success where it matters
Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:01 am to Slinger16
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I don't know how that shite-heel sleeps at night.
I'm sure his mattress made of $100 bills makes it a lot easier!
Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:06 am to VOR
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FWIW, MD Anderson is on the Blue Cross provider list for the policies they offer through Healthcare.gov.
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Shhhh . . . don't spoil it for the others.
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MD Anderson Cancer Center says it's in less than half of the plans in the Houston area.
Even if MD Anderson is in your network it doesn't mean that the drugs and procedures needed for treatment will be covered.
Shhhh... Just let VOR bask in his ignorance.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 8:50 am to La Place Mike
It's all part of the liberal progressive plan, single payer. Issues like this will be used to demonize insurance companies justifying complete government control of healthcare.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:02 am to davesdawgs
quote:Yep.
It's all part of the liberal progressive plan, single payer. Issues like this will be used to demonize insurance companies justifying complete government control of healthcare.
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