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re: Was there a thread about the barge & ship collision in Galveston?

Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:53 am to
Posted by dafuqusay
Houston
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:53 am to
Thats insane. At first I was wondering why there were ships in downtown until I google mapped it and i never realized that the ship channel ran that far into Houston. I followed one creek (bayou in Houston) that feeds into the channel all the way to 8 and 290
Posted by deNYEd
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:32 am to
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Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:34 am to
I'm not sure if they had one last week or not. It obviously wasn't this big. This will probably be upwards of $1M easily. Hate it for anyone.
Posted by deNYEd
Houston
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:39 am to
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Posted by deNYEd
Houston
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:44 am to
there was a collision last week but it was not a kirby barge and it did not leak
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Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:47 am to
Isn't this becoming a common occurrence for that channel?

This is like the 4th one in 5yrs.

There was a pretty big one in early 2010 before BP explosion I believe.
Posted by Athanatos
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:52 am to
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prob close to a mil by day 2. Try 20-40


Probably not a happy day at the pollution underwriter's office.
Posted by deNYEd
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:54 am to
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Posted by deNYEd
Houston
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:59 am to
They have 80 ships pass through this part of the channel everyday so it is a high traffic area. Spills in general are a lot more common than the general public knows. It is just a matter of the magnitude. Not to mention media has had a fascination since deepwater
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:00 am to
quote:

prob close to a mil by day 2. Try 20-40



nah, not for 4000 BBLS,. It wont be that much
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:05 am to
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there was a collision last week but it was not a kirby barge and it did not leak



yes it was

quote:

March 14, 2014: A Kirby-owned barge loaded with hundreds of thousands of gallons of fuel oil collides with a rice-filled cargo ship. The company said its tow was affected by the wake of a third party ship operating at excessive speed in a critical navigation zone. No pollution was released and no one was injured. The incident is still under investigation.
Posted by deNYEd
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:06 am to
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Posted by Athanatos
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:06 am to
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Kirby wishes it was. They are "self-insured"


What do they self insure? They have a lot of risk.
Posted by deNYEd
Houston
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:07 am to
I was mistaken. Possibly just heard about Responsible Party
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:09 am to
It will just go to the super fund
Posted by deNYEd
Houston
Member since Jul 2007
9689 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:11 am to
They can make claims that go in excess of coverage or 20mil, but they will still be on hook for much of it
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:12 am to
I guess you could be right. I just looked up the 2008 oil spill in the Mississippi River that ACL was liable for and it cost them $25 million in cleanup costs

LINK


ETA: that was 7000 BBLS of 6 oil
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Posted by deNYEd
Houston
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:14 am to
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Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:14 am to
damn this article is talking about $100 million in cleanup cost and fines.

LINK
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:17 am to
word.

thats crazy shite.

I would think that Kirby would have some some of insurance for this. Probably self insured equipment damages and personal but separate coverage for environmental liability (pollution)?
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