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In Crimea, Russia May Have Gotten a Jump on West by Evading U.S. Eavesdropping

Posted on 3/23/14 at 10:07 pm
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 3/23/14 at 10:07 pm
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U.S. military satellites spied Russian troops amassing within striking distance of Crimea last month. But intelligence analysts were surprised because they hadn't intercepted any telltale communications where Russian leaders, military commanders or soldiers discussed plans to invade.

America's vaunted global surveillance is a vital tool for U.S. intelligence services, especially as an early-warning system and as a way to corroborate other evidence. In Crimea, though, U.S. intelligence officials are concluding that Russian planners might have gotten a jump on the West by evading U.S. eavesdropping.

"Even though there was a warning, we didn't have the information to be able to say exactly what was going to happen," a senior U.S. official says.

To close the information gap, U.S. spy agencies and the military are rushing to expand satellite coverage and communications-interception efforts across Russia, Ukraine and the Baltic states. U.S. officials hope the "surge" in assets and analysts will improve tracking of the Russian military and tip off the U.S. to any possible intentions of Russian President Vladimir Putin before he acts on them.

The U.S. moves will happen quickly. "We have gone into crisis-response mode," a senior official says.

Still, as Russia brings additional forces to areas near the border with eastern Ukraine, America's spy chiefs are worried that Russian leaders might be able to cloak their next move by shielding more communications from the U.S., according to officials familiar with the matter. "That is the question we're all asking ourselves," one top U.S. official says.

The Obama administration is "very nervous," says a person close to the discussions. "This is uncharted territory."


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Hero to many a Politard, traitor to America
Posted by Turkey_Creek_Tiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/23/14 at 10:10 pm to
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traitor to America


sarcasm?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/23/14 at 10:11 pm to
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traitor to America

sounds more like a traitor to Crimea/Ukraine
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/23/14 at 10:11 pm to
Odd that the agencies you blow daily are busy collecting meta data on gramma calling to wish someone a happy birthday.
Posted by ASTL
In a cubicle
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/23/14 at 10:11 pm to



I haven't followed your goofy arse around here lately. Are you saying you want more U.S. interference in Russia, possibly even war?

Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 10:11 pm to
Maybe the current regime should have a) realized that they were in fact in the wrong and b) given him amnesty there were other solutions out there....
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/23/14 at 10:12 pm to
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"This is uncharted territory."



pretty sure wars have been bought prior to metadata and illegal and invasive spying
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59502 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 10:24 pm to
I gave you barely any credibility before this thread, but you have absolutely proven me wrong. I should have given you no credibility whatsoever, you fricking hack. you are entertaining, I guess.
Posted by BeerCity
Asheville, North Carolina
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 3/23/14 at 10:27 pm to
Snowden will always be a hero. Our meddling government creates most of its own political problems internationally by playing world cop.
Posted by SettleDown
Everywhere
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 3/23/14 at 10:28 pm to
Hmm. Sounds like our government is reaping the results of their bull shite. Perhaps off they hadn't lost their minds on domestic surveillance, they would have been fine on this. Griping about Snowden here is like blaming the cop for u being late to work when u get busted speeding
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 3/23/14 at 10:46 pm to
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The Obama administration is "very nervous," says a person close to the discussions. "This is uncharted territory."


Not quite like community organizing, is it
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12566 posts
Posted on 3/23/14 at 11:16 pm to
So snowden provided info to the Russians that they already didn't have or know that was gathered by said contractor not officially working for the government and new to the job? Why the frick did he have access then?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 6:38 am to
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In Crimea, Russia May Have Gotten a Jump on West by Evading U.S. Eavesdropping
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Thanks Edward Snowden
Decatur, vigilance and analysis is the way intelligence works.

Events in Crimea began in the Ukraine.
Where was our response?

Early Ukrainian hints that the Crimean Naval Base treaty could be reconsidered virtually assured Putin's action.
Where was our response?

The fact is, we were clueless far before any satellite issue arose.
Got it?

OTOH, let's talk Snowden.
Edward Snowden was according to you, an uneducated treacherous dork, not dissimilar in that respect to Bradley Manning who preceded him. Manning logged in, accessed volumes of secure data, copied it, and passed it on. Snowden logged in, accessed volumes of secure data, copied it, and passed it on. How does the same MASSIVE security breach occur TWICE? Who is to blame for it? With a competent human in charge (as you claim Obama to be), there is accountability. Where is evidence of that accountability?

Again, you view Obama as supremely competent. The "buck stops" somewhere. Where is that 'somewhere' in this instance? Who has been fired? Which agency has been put on notice? What assurance is the public being provided that these chasms in our intell community are being addressed?

Take your time, or perhaps wait until Snowden's successor answers those questions for you, subsequent to the next breach.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27845 posts
Posted on 3/24/14 at 6:58 am to
Just the other day people we're criticizing Romney saying there was nothing Obama could have done differently to prevent this annexation but now your saying it could have been avoided? Hmm...
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 7:02 am to
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Decatur


The butthurt is strong in this one.
Posted by Turkey_Creek_Tiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 9:44 pm to
Posted by a want
I love everybody
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 9:00 am to
Soldiers don't get to pick and choose which battles they think are just, and government contractors don't get to choose which intelligence should be publicly available. Snowden could have gone through proper channels to voice his concerns, but he was more interested in being a star.

Snowden broke the law: plain and simple. People who hold him up as some sort of hero are fools.
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