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Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:36 am to guttata
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Catastrophic decrease in cabin pressure incapacitated pilots and plane went straight down. The ocean is very big and they will eventually find parts of the plane.
And what happened to all the tracking and emergency equipment?
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:38 am to AUCE05
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When fully loaded, jet fuel accounts for ~25% of the planes weight. That amount of fuel, along with force of different variables associated with flying, would completely destroy the plane. Assuming the unthinkable happened.
No, it wouldn't! Good God, man, read up on aircraft crash history! Several commercial passenger planes have had explosions of or in their fuel tanks. NONE of them was just completely destroyed. They ALWAYS break apart into chunks that rain down, some rather large! TWA 800 was officially due to ignition IN the tank and whole 10 row sections of attached intact seating came raining down.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:38 am to TheDoc
Threads like this bring out in the best in people. 
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:39 am to LNCHBOX
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And then you burn at least 20% of that on take off, and planes aren't topped off depending on how far they are going. And this didn't happen right after take off.
With a partially filled fuel tank, you now have fuel/air vapor in the tank which has far more explosive potential than a full tank.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:40 am to LNCHBOX
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It was late at night, most were probably sleeping. That also means it was dark, so how would they know they were off course. Why does common sense go out the window in these situations?
It was only an hour into the flight when the plane apparently did a U-turn... Doubt many were sleeping just yet. Plus I'm pretty sure I'd notice the plane doing a sudden u-turn. Does it mean I'd think to call for help? No, I'd probably just wonder why we turned and then forget about it and fall asleep.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:40 am to LNCHBOX
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And then you burn at least 20% of that on take off, and planes aren't topped off depending on how far they are going. And this didn't happen right after take off. Should I keep going?
Then it's an easy calculation on how much fuel the plane had at the time when the lost contact. I mean, what makes more common sense, a plane, which is basically a sheet metal strapped to a tank of jet fuel and can reach speeds of 700 mph having mechanical problems and having an accident, or a 747 being stolen by people who live in mud huts?
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:40 am to EA6B
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With a partially filled fuel tank, you now have fuel/air vapor in the tank which has far more explosive potential than a full tank.
And yet planes that have mid air explosions still come down in chunks. Crazy.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:41 am to AUCE05
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I mean, what makes more common sense, a plane, which is basically a sheet metal strapped to a tank of jet fuel and can reach speeds of 700 mph having mechanical problems and having an accident
There is a shite load of examples of commercial jets blowing up in the air and coming down in chunks. I really don't know what else to tell you.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:42 am to guttata
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Catastrophic decrease in cabin pressure incapacitated pilots and plane went straight down. The ocean is very big and they will eventually find parts of the plane.
The latest official news from the Malay govt is that it was spotted on radar coming back over the Malaysian mainland. It didn't go straight down.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:43 am to Cooter Davenport
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TWA 800 was officially due to ignition IN the tank and whole 10 row sections of attached intact seating came raining down.
The back half of TWA 800 kept flying for a little while. And this was right after takeoff on a trans-Atlantic flight. They had plenty of fuel.
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simulations indicated that after the loss of the forward fuselage the remainder of the aircraft continued on in crippled flight, then pitched up while rolling to the left (north),[98] climbing to a maximum altitude between 15,537 feet (4,736 m) and 16,678 feet (5,083 m)[102] from its last recorded altitude, 13,760 feet (4,190 m).[
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:44 am to Winkface
Excuse my ignorance but how does that pic tie in?
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:44 am to AUCE05
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or a 747 being stolen by people who live in mud huts?
Well, 4 of them were stolen on 9/11.
The thing that baffles me, and keeps me from believing 100% that the plane blew up, is what happened to the radar? How did the plane just disappear? When planes blow up, the air traffic people know where to go find the wreckage. This plane just flat out disappeared.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:44 am to J Murdah
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Right now there is no evidence of a crash. There's not really any evidence of anything.
+1
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:46 am to DawgCountry
LINK
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The two Iranian men traveling on missing Malaysian Air flight MH370 have been identified.
Market Watch reported:
Two passengers who boarded missing Malaysia Airlines MY:MAS 0.00% flight MH370 with stolen passports were Iranians, one of whom was trying to reunited with his mother in German, authorities said on Tuesday.
Malaysia’s national police chief, Inspector-General Khalid Abu Bakar, identified one of the passengers as 19-year-old Pouria Nour Mohammad Mehrdad. Inspector-General Khalid said Mehrdad’s mother contacted Malaysian authorities after he failed to arrive on a connecting flight to Frankfurt, after the Malaysia Airlines flight disappeared less than an hour after take-off en route to Beijing.
Interpol Secretary-General Ronald Noble told reporters at the agency’s headquarters in Lyon, France, that the second man was also an Iranian, Delavar Seyedmohammedreza.
Mehrdad, who was traveling on a passport reported stolen in Thailand last year by 30-year-old Austrian Christian Kozel, didn’t appear to be connected with any terrorist groups, Inspector-General Khalid said, adding that he had been in contact with Iranian authorities. “We believe he was trying to migrate to Germany,” he said. “His mother was expecting him to arrive. She contacted us here, so that is how we know he is the one.”
nterpol suggested that the second man, Seyedmohammedreza, was also only trying to get to Europe by using a stolen Italian passport.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:46 am to LNCHBOX
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And then you burn at least 20% of that on take off,
Am I wrong to think this is total bullshite? Planes burn 1/5th of their fuel on takeoff?
If so, I am shocked!
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:46 am to Golfer
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Just a FYI the "bags of 5 who didn't get on the plane" story wasn't true:
I wonder what other misinformation there is. Hell, maybe the Malaysian military is wrong, and the plane didn't track back across the peninsula to the strait.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:47 am to TOKEN
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Delavar Seyedmohammedreza.
I bet that dude hated filling out a scantron test.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:47 am to LSUJuice
Thank you! With TWA 800 the whole tank blew up and an entire half of the plane kept flying for a while. PLANES DO NOT JUST VAPORIZE! This thing was over 200' long. It would take a nuclear bomb to completely vaporize it. If it blew up, there would be chunks of it left, which would have had pieces and parts and bodies that would have floated.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:47 am to LNCHBOX
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Do you people just ignore previous midair explosions? Planes don't disintegrate. There would be a shite load of debris.
And this is true - but over water, it could be problematic in finding the debris field - they may have been looking too far downrange.
Right now the evidence is largely negative. There was a large plane full of people and we cannot locate it or them.
Most likely (based on what we have now) is hijacking which went horribly awry. The military allegedly tracked the plane after a turn and significant course deviation to the West. Of course fatal deviations like this are not always hijacking - KAL 007 was a combination of course deviation (crew error) and Russian Cold War "twitchiness".
That isn't suspected here, but the course deviation described is most likely hijacking, although it could have been caused by mechanical failure or crew error. Crew error might not have been noticed by the crew. Mechanical failure might have made it impossible to report. However these just appear less likely than hijacking which very easily and simply (Occam's Razor) account for both the deviation from charted course AND failure to report.
777 only has a cockpit crew of 2. I don't think this flight was long enough to have relief crew as that is about 5 to 6 hour flight, gate to gate.
So, I'm thinking in terms of - if not hijacking, something wildly unexpected - although uncommon, some geese and vultures fly that high. You would think that a bird strike, particularly one that incapacitated an engine, would still allow for additional controlled flight time and a mayday.
Likewise, unless a meteorite struck the cockpit, killing the crew immediately - I'm trying to brainstorm something that is possible to cause all of these events: course deviation, no contact, disappearance.
Missle strike (I don't think they were nearly close enough to North Korea - so terrorism) is a possibility. Onboard explosive, maybe.
If it was terrorism, why hasn't credible credit been claimed?
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