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2nd coming of Jimmy Carter

Posted on 3/4/14 at 1:05 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112767 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 1:05 pm
Labor Participation Rate

Lowest rate of employment since Jimmah Carter.
And we had Soviet adventurism during Carter.
Coincidence? I think not.
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 1:12 pm to
I'm all for blaming a litany of things on Obama and his inept administration, but seriously, what do you want us to do about Ukraine?

Threaten Putin?

Send over our boys?

Spend some more money?

OR, do we just let them control gas in Europe, while we control oil elsewhere.

We could freeze some assets and kick them out of the G8, but then they could begin taking oil in payments other than dollars, and that would sink our ship.


What is the solution when dealing with a despot such as Putin? I do not want another war unless someone is directly threatening us.

Anyone else think it is mighty coincidental that as we cut our military, that we are feeling pressure to get engaged overseas once again?
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

Anyone else think it is mighty coincidental that as we cut our military, that we are feeling pressure to get engaged overseas once again?
Makes me wonder if we have any Intelligence on the ground, or if, as many think, this Administration really is bent on destroying our reputation and respect around the world.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76645 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

Anyone else think it is mighty coincidental that as we cut our military, that we are feeling pressure to get engaged overseas once again?


It's not a very big cut and doesn't really cut much in that region and NO naval cuts.

You're finding cause in something that is not substantiated at all IMO.
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 1:25 pm to
I am waiting to hear his malaise speech which will come too late to effect anything but the mid-term elections which he really doesn't give a shite about as he is in for the remainder of his term if there is nothing worthy of impeachment til '16.
This post was edited on 3/4/14 at 1:28 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112767 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 1:27 pm to
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I'm all for blaming a litany of things on Obama and his inept administration, but seriously, what do you want us to do about Ukraine?


You miss the point. The reason for the Ukraine invasion is the same as USSR intervention during the Carter years. Carter and Obama are weak. The Russians can do what they want to do because they recognized that Carter/Obama will do nothing.

The word you're looking for is 'deterrence.'
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
25309 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

his malaise speech


it's already happened
quote:

“This is a great, great country that had gotten a little soft and we didn't have that same competitive edge that we needed over the last couple of decades,”
from 2011
This post was edited on 3/4/14 at 1:32 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36519 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 1:33 pm to
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I'm all for blaming a litany of things on Obama and his inept administration, but seriously, what do you want us to do about Ukraine


Beginning with Georgia, the "RESET", the decision not to put up a missile defense system in East Europe and his reliance on Russia to help us with Iran and Syria; Obama has made things worse and worse as far as Russia is concerned.

Steps taken years ago may have made Putin reluctant to invade Ukraine, but we'll never know now will we. All we can say now is what we don't want to do (use our military), make a speech, and write a check.

Couple all that with the recession that Obama can't put behind us, and we have some bigger problems than we would have normally.
Posted by TWD7105
Member since Feb 2014
130 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 1:35 pm to
Why would we not support the Ukraine? You guys confuse soft power and hard power and instead just push for no power?
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
37383 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

I'm all for blaming a litany of things on Obama and his inept administration, but seriously, what do you want us to do about Ukraine?


Those pesky Republicans including Palin in 2008 and Romney in 2012 warned us about this very scenario. Obama told them both to go back to the Cold War days and get up to speed on current affairs. What else is this administration letting pass them by?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99755 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:17 pm to
I'd prefer Carter to Obama.

Carter was a misguided, liberal idealist. Obama is an evil man bent on the destruction of the USA.
Posted by MisterSenator
Member since Aug 2013
1285 posts
Posted on 3/4/14 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

Lowest rate of employment since Jimmah Carter.
And we had Soviet adventurism during Carter.
Coincidence? I think not.


wow, two and two DOES make four, does it not?
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