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re: Mike Lupica is a moron re: guns
Posted on 2/26/14 at 7:14 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 2/26/14 at 7:14 pm to Draconian Sanctions
And yet you whiny arse stays here. Why not go to DU where you can enjoy yourself?
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 7:15 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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amazing how the states rights, small/local government types get all bent out of shape when a locality does something they don't like.
How about this: let New Yorkers be New Yorkers and you be you. If you don't agree with how they want to run their city then DON"T frickING MOVE THERE. But for the love of god stop the incessant whining and complaining.
horseshite - It's New Yorkers who try to influence everybody else. How's about they shut the frick up about whether gay "marriage" is recognized in the south?
Posted on 2/26/14 at 7:16 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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ow about this: let New Yorkers be New Yorkers and you be you. If you don't agree with how they want to run their city then DON"T frickING MOVE THERE. But for the love of god stop the incessant whining and complaining.
You say that about gay marraige? The right to bear arms is in the constitution. You know, the law of the land.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 7:19 pm to rcd0808
Oh, and watch I forgot to post.
I actually remember a Sports Illustrated once that referred to Lupica as the "conservative" among a group of their sportswriters/employees, forget what they were doing.
That was hilariously stupid when they said it, grows more so with each passing year. He's one of those weasels who has never done anything but write about the achievements of others but he feels superior because he gets to sniff important jocks.
I actually remember a Sports Illustrated once that referred to Lupica as the "conservative" among a group of their sportswriters/employees, forget what they were doing.
That was hilariously stupid when they said it, grows more so with each passing year. He's one of those weasels who has never done anything but write about the achievements of others but he feels superior because he gets to sniff important jocks.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 7:21 pm to rcd0808
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You say that about gay marraige? The right to bear arms is in the constitution
guns aren't banned in NY...Posted on 2/26/14 at 7:34 pm to gthog61
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horseshite - It's New Yorkers who try to influence everybody else
well that's really not true.
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How's about they shut the frick up about whether gay "marriage" is recognized in the south?
it's a lot more than just New York that wonders about that
Posted on 2/26/14 at 7:59 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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guns aren't banned in NY...
Technically they aren't but I believe that NYC's laws violate the spirit of the 2nd Amendment.
During the Jim Crow era, southern states regularly passed laws (eg. poll taxes, literacy thtests, etc.) that violated the spirit of the Second Amendment which protects voting rights. The 1965 Voting Rights Act gave the Justice Department the authority to easily strike down these laws whenever they are passed.
Similarly, ever since the Roe vs Wade decision came down in 1973, pro-life politicians have regularly passed laws that make it all but impossible for women to get an abortion, only to see them get struck down by the courts for violating the spirit of Roe vs Wade.
I put NYC's gun laws in the same category as these laws that put undo restrictions on voting rights and abortion rights.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 8:03 pm to trackfan
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Technically they aren't but I believe that NYC's laws violate the spirit of the 2nd Amendment.
well you are of course entitled to your opinion, but I would like for you to give me some specifics.
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Similarly, ever since the Roe vs Wade decision came down in 1973, pro-life politicians have regularly passed laws that make it all but impossible for women to get an abortion, only to see them get struck down by the courts for violating the spirit of Roe vs Wade.
I mean that's a very broad statement. A lot of those restrictions are still in place, and I also want to say that I don't have a problem with some of those restrictions (at least from a Constitutionality standpoint).
At the same time, we've seen gun restrictions around the country struck down as well.
To this point, NYC's gun restrictions have not run afoul of the constitution according to the federal judiciary. If there were no restrictions on the 2nd amendment then it would be legal for private citizens to own nuclear weapons. Do you think that should be allowed?
This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 2/26/14 at 8:21 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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If there were no restrictions on the 2nd amendment then it would be legal for private citizens to own nuclear weapons. Do you think that should be allowed?
Of course we need restrictions on the 2nd Amendment and there are. Similarly there are restrictions on voting rights and abortion rights. All our rights have to have some restrictions, I'm not an absolutist. I just think the restrictions should within reason.
Do you think it's fair that the only people who can get a permit to take their weapon out of their home are celebrities, retired law enforcement officers and "Friends of the Mayor"? Keep in mind that in the weeks before Plaxico Burress had his famous accident, he had been robbed twice on the street in front of his home, so his gun didn't do him any good in those cases. That's why he decided he needed to take his gun with him whenever he left his house.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 8:26 pm to trackfan
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I just think the restrictions should within reason.
well that's fine and we can all have our different ideas of what "within reason is" and express that view within our community. the only reason i'm even in this thread is to respond to the predicable ad hominem attacks towards those who don't share the view of the majority on the TD.com poli board.
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Do you think it's fair that the only people who can get a permit to take their weapon out of their home are celebrities, retired law enforcement officers and "Friends of the Mayor"?
well i just don't know that this is true. i'm sure that it is difficult though and if a community wants to strongly regulate concealed carry permits then that's within that communities constitutional limits. Obviously not condoning the corruption angle to your post though.
This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 2/26/14 at 8:27 pm to TheDoc
We don't need access to those guns. Founding Fathers had muskets. They couldn't conceive of weapons technology for sale in this country today. Maybe rifles or shotguns for hunting but the gun and weapons nuts in this country have way too big of a voice. frick Wayne Lapierre too.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 8:29 pm to BeerCity
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Maybe rifles or shotguns for hunting but the gun and weapons nuts in this country have way too big of a voice
You have the same "voice" as they do. You have too much voice?
Anti gun nut
Posted on 2/26/14 at 8:31 pm to TheDoc
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new yorkers are hilarious though. they cannot WAIT to give away their rights. they despise them.
Only the rights they disagree with
Posted on 2/26/14 at 8:47 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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So someone who doesn't share your opinion = moron?
lupica is a moron. I don't call many folks that. but he is a grade a moron.
did you even read anything other than the title of this thread?
you're smarter than this
Posted on 2/26/14 at 8:50 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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How about this: let New Yorkers be New Yorkers and you be you. If you don't agree with how they want to run their city then DON"T frickING MOVE THERE. But for the love of god stop the incessant whining and complaining.
that's rich
you sure aren't consistent
Posted on 2/26/14 at 8:51 pm to trackfan
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Of course we need restrictions on the 2nd Amendment and there are.
what part of "shall not be infringed" did you not comprehend?
Posted on 2/26/14 at 8:52 pm to BeerCity
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We don't need access to those guns.
who the frick are you to tell anyone what they need or don't need?
frick you
Posted on 2/26/14 at 8:54 pm to TheDoc
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what part of "shall not be infringed" did you not comprehend?
so you think private citizens should be allowed to own nuclear weapons?
Posted on 2/26/14 at 8:55 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Never go full Rex.
Is a nuke a rifle a shotgun or is it a handgun?
Is a nuke a rifle a shotgun or is it a handgun?
Posted on 2/26/14 at 8:55 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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so you think private citizens should be allowed to own nuclear weapons?
last time I checked, a fricking nuclear warhead is a god damn FIREARM
jesus fricking christ dude.. really?
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