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re: Mike Lupica is a moron re: guns
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:40 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:40 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Well I got a 3.7 in Con Law I and a 3.5 in Con Law II so you might want to let my law professors know so they can adjust my grade accordingly
and yet you continue to use the "nuclear warhead is my 2nd amendment right bro!" fallacy
sounds like you had a fricking moron for a prof too
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:42 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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There are a lot of other examples and a lot of other links out there I could post but I realize that nothing will ever be good enough for you though and that's fine.
Of course there are. Millions.
The NRA is out there encouraging people to commit gun crimes.
I know that you don't believe in the individual right to self-defense - and that's fine - just say so. Don't pretend you're being "reasonable" and all of us arguing for the individual right to own, possess and employ firearms for self-defense are the ones going against the letter and spirit of the Constitution (because we aren't - you are).
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:42 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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It's very telling that you have to go to these ad hominem attacks to make your point
When they're unable to defend their point with facts and logic, all folks like him are left with is ad hominem attacks.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:42 pm to TheDoc
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sounds like you had a fricking moron for a prof too
I had a different prof for each class. I guess all the professors at LSU Law School are morons though
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:43 pm to trackfan
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understand where I'm coming from.
where would that be from?
you and DS both try to use gotcha bullshite with the nuclear warhead fallacy, and it's been proven wrong and debunked for several decades.
it's hyperbole and it sucks. you arent smart to bring it up. it's one of the most tired and dumbest arguments gun grabbers bring up...
it's old bro! stop!
This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:44 pm to Ace Midnight
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The NRA is out there encouraging people to commit gun crimes
Did you not read my original post on this subject very well, chose to completely ignore it or just didn't understand what i was saying? Because if that's what you got from that it has to be one of those 3.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:44 pm to trackfan
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facts and logic
coming from the guy who doesn't understand what "arms" are
you are WAAAAY out of your league dude
go read the fricking federalist papers
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:44 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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I guess all the professors at LSU Law School are morons though
Well, I can't speak for all of them, but Paul Baier has a JD (Cum Laude) from Harvard - I daresay he's a genius.
But, he's almost too liberal to host a talk show on MSNBC...
He called me "Justice Scalia"...
This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:46 pm to TheDoc
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The Second Amendment stipulates that the right is to "keep and bear" arms, meaning to possess, maintain, transport, carry, serve, and operate as in individual. That rules out things that are crew served and operated.
This is just your interpretation. Why does anyone else have to accept it?
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:47 pm to trackfan
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This is just your interpretation. Why does anyone else have to accept it?
Having fun?
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:47 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Did you not read my original post on this subject very well
Do you deny that you implied that the NRA is weakening "gun laws", and you really meant - the NRA is weakening the ATF? And you know the former is going to draw general support and the latter is going to draw a lot of, "Well, good!"
So, I countered with the ridiculous notion that the NRA is encouraging crime (which they are not). Heck, the NRA had a hand in every gun control law passed in these parts - I'm no fan of the NRA, but I applaud some of their efforts to hold some kind of a line against the federales.
This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:48 pm to Jbird
he's stuck on stupid
I cannot help him
I cannot help him
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:51 pm to Jbird
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The 1st was written prior to the internet so maybe we need to control free speech, I mean hell they couldn't possibly envision anything more than crude printing presses and a town crier.
TheDoc disagrees with you. He doesn't think any of the Amendments should be restricted.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:52 pm to trackfan
quote:I didn't ask Doc I asked you.
quote:The 1st was written prior to the internet so maybe we need to control free speech, I mean hell they couldn't possibly envision anything more than crude printing presses and a town crier. TheDoc disagrees with you. He doesn't think any of the Amendments should be restricted.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:53 pm to trackfan
you're just mad because I've shot down every stupid argument you tried to muster up
it's only been brought up a zillion times dude.
and it's shot down every time.
it's only been brought up a zillion times dude.
and it's shot down every time.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 9:59 pm to TheDoc
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coming from the guy who doesn't understand what "arms" are
By definition, an "arm is anything from a slingshot to a nuclear, intercontinental, ballistic missile. Your problem is that you would rather wallow in ignorance than concede that the government regularly infringes on our constitutional rights and it is the job of the courts to decide how far they can go with this infringement.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 10:02 pm to Jbird
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I didn't ask Doc I asked you.
I didn't read a question, I read an assertion. What is your question?
Posted on 2/26/14 at 10:06 pm to trackfan
Did you miss this part or was the missing question ark your down fall?
so maybe we need to control free speech
so maybe we need to control free speech
Posted on 2/26/14 at 10:07 pm to Ace Midnight
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So, I countered with the ridiculous notion that the NRA is encouraging crime
weakening gun laws =/= encouraging gun crime, but the end result is more gun crime than there would otherwise be if the current laws on the books were being enforced properly.
Surely you understood me when i said that the first time and were just being difficult.
This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 2/26/14 at 10:13 pm to Jbird
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so maybe we need to control free speech
As I said earlier, most of the Amendments, including the 1st Amendment, need to have some limits put on them. If the Amendments were absolute, it would lead to anarchy.
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