re: Texas keeps dead body as fetus incubator against family's wishes.

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And, yes, this was resolved. The courts demanded she be removed from life support. This story is dead.

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Not even u can be dumb think she would be literally decaying on life support and to think the "smell of death" wasnt a metaphor

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She is decaying ,but the ventillator is only slowing the process. Their is no ' life' to support she is dead.

Here is what Jani Mcmath(13 year old dead girl on ventillator from Oakland) pediatrician Dr. Heidi Fiori says about the dead girl's decaying body:

"The deterioration became inevitable the moment she DIED. Additional & more dramatic signs of the body's deterioration will continue........Mechanical support & other measures taken to maintain the ILLUSION of life where NONE exists cannot maintain that ILUSION indefinitely."

The article also states without getting too graphic that "the tissues under her skin were losing their elatisicity & her muscles were contracting." Also that 'blankets were needed to maintain a constant temperature'.

'Blankets were needed to maintain a constant temperature'. Or blankets were needed to maintain a decaying corpse which is turning COLD in it's bed , but not for artificially regulating her temperature.

Jani Mcmath (not to be gruesome) is a slowly decaying corpse which is turning COLD just as the pregnant Texas mother with the abnormal fetus that the abortion nuts want to experiment with.


Unless the doctors horribly misdiagnosed these patients they are dead & it is grotesque that fetus obssessed whackjobs think it is okay to maintain a corpse to harvest a fetus(against the mother , husband & family's wishes).

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You have to have the mental accumen of a 4 year old, one who is not very bright, to subscribe to the current brand of conservatism in the UNited States....

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Dear Mister Genius: you misspelled "acumen" during your ridiculous and vapid non sequitur. In fact, you are a living non sequitur, but, at least you have that in common with Spidey.

PS But I give props to you and spidy for including content in your posting. tiger in the aTL can't manage to even include content.

Check back with the kid in a few years and see if he is okay with it.

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She is decaying ,but the ventillator is only slowing the process. Their is no ' life' to support she is dead.

Here is what Jani Mcmath(13 year old dead girl on ventillator from Oakland) pediatrician Dr. Heidi Fiori says about the dead girl's decaying body:

"The deterioration became inevitable the moment she DIED. Additional & more dramatic signs of the body's deterioration will continue........Mechanical support & other measures taken to maintain the ILLUSION of life where NONE exists cannot maintain that ILUSION indefinitely."

The article also states without getting too graphic that "the tissues under her skin were losing their elatisicity & her muscles were contracting." Also that 'blankets were needed to maintain a constant temperature'.

'Blankets were needed to maintain a constant temperature'. Or blankets were needed to maintain a decaying corpse which is turning COLD in it's bed , but not for artificially regulating her temperature.

Jani Mcmath (not to be gruesome) is a slowly decaying corpse which is turning COLD just as the pregnant Texas mother with the abnormal fetus that the abortion nuts want to experiment with.

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I hate to tell you, but that dr was speaking metaphorically. Sometimes they choose their words to communicate the fact that what is considered dead can be accepted by some of the religious crazies.

The brain dead person is not decaying. It would be better to state that the person is atrophying. Muscles not used waste away. They do not decay, they atrophy. The tendons and ligaments to contract over times if they are not used. This is why people in comas get physical therapy where their limbs are moved through range of motion exercises.

Obviously since there are catheters in place and they are intubated, the risk for infections from these things go up dramatically. UTIs and pneumonia are always a threat. The brain that was killed atrophies to next to nothing.

But the body is alive. So I don't think you understand fully. It gives the illusion of life in that the person looks like they are sleeping. But the brain can be dead. Heck, the higher brain can be dead with the persons brain stem still surviving and they can breathe on their own and their heart can still beat but they are dead.

Our concept of death has changed obviously since back in the day.

So yes, the skin can lose its elasticity and the muscles contract and atrophy from wasting away because they are not being used. They are not decaying though. That happens when the actual tissue dies. That is not happening. The person is dead, but the heart is still beating, the lungs still getting oxygen, the kidneys are still filtering, liver still functioning.

There is trouble regulating temperature because muscles waste away and the brain functions used to thermoregulate are gone.

So, this person who s dead, their body is being kept artificially alive. And yes, organs can be harvested from these people weeks later.

This was not a decaying corpse. The body was not turning cold.

The body was artificially being kept alive. But she was dead.

Now I agree what was done in this particular case was ridiculous. But there are crazy laws on the books that sometimes put hospitals in strange spots. The woman should have been taken off of life support long ago.

However to say stupid things like the title or the above saying the woman was decaying is stupid and actually weakens the obvious point that this woman should have been take off live support long ago.

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I was about to ask, isn't this the case that was resolved (correctly) by the court last week?

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Yes.

And, it is a travesty that it went beyond the personal sphere of those involved.

The DNR and the husband's wishes should have been respected and this should have ended as it did...only without any of us asshats knowing / pontificating on it.

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don't know why you call them "obssessed whackjobs"? If it was my wife and child I would do everything possible to see that the child lived. She is dead nothing is gonna change that but there is a possibility of the baby living why not try? This has been done before.

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So you'd be willing to spend six figures or more to care for a baby so deformed now that they can't tell what sex it is and there is water on the brain? All in the name of "trying" to keep a deformed retarded child alive? Personally I wouldn't let my dog suffer like that.

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And everything to do what the dead mom and her husband wanted.

But then again, you don't care about either of them.

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Wrong. I actually do care about them, but you're just being a hack job.

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Every sperm is precious.

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You know I don't protect sperm.

Furthermore, I believe the decision by this hospital should have been allowing the natural death of the fetus. I believe the fetus is a person though, so when it's healthy and won't have to stay in the mom's cadaver too long before they can try to save it, I think the fetus should be treated as a patient and we should use our technology to try to save its life.

Then again, this is an extraordinary scenario that is unique from all other scenarios.

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Personally I wouldn't let my dog suffer like that.

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Euthanizing retarded people is likely not a winning position.