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re: Serious Question: No hyperbole please....
Posted on 1/25/14 at 10:51 am to gthog61
Posted on 1/25/14 at 10:51 am to gthog61
quote:BS. Syrias; chemical weapons program was the most robust in the middle east. They spent decades developing it. They were the leader on this issue. After Osirik in 1981, they decided this would be a safer route to develop WMD. Obviously, because of what happened in 2007, they changed their mind along the way.
I remember Iraq as the place where Syria got their chemical weapons.
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 10:53 am to Vegas Bengal
quote:This. Its not debatable that these collapses occurred under Republican presidents. I think the reasons why are debatable. However, the right doesn't like to spend time discssing this. It would be a good thread topic.
I'm still trying to figure how how you right wing loons can delude yourselves into thinking Republicans are good for the economy when the three greatest collapses of financial institutions occurred under Republican presidents.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 10:56 am to sammyptiger
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sammyptiger After Osirik in 1981
Everybody stand back.
I have seen this phenomenon before.
Random Clueless Guy has Google, becomes chemical weapons expert par excellence in under five minutes.
Finds article that conforms to Narrative.
Sadly, still has binky in mouth.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 10:57 am to sammyptiger
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Its not debatable that these collapses occurred under Republican presidents.
Funny how Dem congresses get a pass on these collapses. It's almost like the Prez is a king or something.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 10:59 am to son of arlo
quote:They don't. You didn't read my following sentence. "I think the reasons why are debatable"
Funny how Dem congresses get a pass on these collapses. It's almost like the Prez is a king or something.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:01 am to Vegas Bengal
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I'm still trying to figure how how you right wing loons can delude yourselves into thinking Republicans are good for the economy when the three greatest collapses of financial institutions occurred under Republican presidents. And each time it took a Democrat to save the nation.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:34 am to AUin02
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He got Bin Laden then couldn't wait to talk about it to the point where he got an operative JAILED
Which was worse than anything Scooter Libby did, and Scooter did time.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:35 am to sammyptiger
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No but Obama greatly expanded it and reemphasized its importance.
Please provide some objective evidence to support this bold conclusion of yours.
With regard to the selectivity to which you refer. I try to avoid it.
Obama's domestic policies are where I find my opposition to his reign of power. His foreign policy isn't perfect, for sure. However, my main opposition to his reign arises from his belief in the power and authority of the State to impose his vision upon us.
Obama's foreign policy is imperfect, but, I don't know that it will lead us to ruin. My personal belief is that his Statist worldview with regard to FedGov's role in our private lives is a danger to Individual Liberty and Private Property.
Obama's worldview with regard to the role of FedGov in our private lives could lead us to ruin, because of the potential to curtail our Individual Liberty and Private Property rights.
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 11:38 am
Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:37 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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No, you made a completely false statement, "Taking down the health insurance industry". The health insurance industry was in NO WAY taken down by this admin, as a point of fact, the health insurance industry is COMPLICIT in this fiasco.
And, as I pointed out, will be taken down, whether or not they were complicit, they are still being taken down.
This is like the OP asking, name a success of LSU RB Jeremy Hill, and I reply "Jeremy Hill scored a 54 yard TD against AU". Then you follow it up with "No, JHill didn't just score a TD, Cameron called a play, the oline blocked and the WR led the caravan further down the field".
Either way, it was a success.
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Complete hack job ^
So, what is the Obama admin doing differently now than six years ago to fix the economy? Obama states he has a "laser-like focus" every year. Every single year. I suspect it will be in the SOTU this year as well.
What is different? If he hasn't shifted course, isn't it logical to conclude that he thinks what he is doing is a success?
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And I saw another POTUS have his nominations confirmed, so...impass. I mean, c'mon, wtf? Is having a SCJ confirmed some sort of sign of the apocalypse? Should we never have another SCJ confirmed?
The question of the OP was to name a success. This was one of them. I never once commented on the merit of this success, nor commented on how I felt about the appointment.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:40 am to son of arlo
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Funny how Dem congresses get a pass on these collapses. It's almost like the Prez is a king or something.
Thanks. Good point.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:41 am to sammyptiger
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Its not debatable that these collapses occurred under Republican presidents.
Who was in charge of congress during these times?
Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:43 am to EZE Tiger Fan
To answer the OP's question, I have given him credit, and thought he has done some things well. The top of the list are things done by the Military though, but I have to give him credit, as he was the President; and are OBL, and the Somali Pirate incident..The other, and kind of associated with him, is the Stock Market, and income gap...thanks Obama! After that, I got nothing, and looking at the Economy, and Foreign relation, as a whole, easily the worst President in my lifetime..
Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:45 am to Vegas Bengal
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killing the man
You can't argue with ideologues like VB. The reason is because you begin the argument with a person whose mental architecture begins at this starting point -- that Obama himself killed bin Laden.
There's no point in trying to argue with thoroughly indoctrinated ideologues like this. They are not here to learn. They are not here to broaden their intellectual horizons. They are here to engage in auto-reinforcement of their ideology.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:48 am to CamdenTiger
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The top of the list are things done by the Military though, but I have to give him credit, as he was the President; and are OBL, and the Somali Pirate incident.
Would you give him credit for increasing US energy production as well?
Posted on 1/25/14 at 1:05 pm to Champagne
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There's no point in trying to argue with thoroughly indoctrinated ideologues like this.
Ultimately, this is the only valid response to the OP.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 1:06 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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Which was worse than anything Scooter Libby did, and Scooter did time
...if Obama wasn't so protected by the duplicitus media and a lap dog Senate....he would and should be the first American President to do time.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 1:09 pm to Jim Ignatowski
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...if Obama wasn't so protected by the duplicitus media and a lap dog Senate....he would and should be the first American President to do time.
I always hear about Obama being protected by the media yet none of you have any problems finding his flaws. Certainly you're using some form of media to find this information.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 1:10 pm to Powerman
This appears to be the 'No Logic Zone'.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 1:22 pm to Taxing Authority
While his post goes counter to the request in the OP for "no hyperbole" (which the OP himself clearly violated) the poster you reply to does make a point.
The fact is that there are many posters on the board who seem to believe that every single ill is rooted in the Democratic Party while every blessing is rooted in the Republican party. (To be fair, while the reverse is true, on this board the pro-Repubilcan tools far outnumber the pro-Democrat tools.) The truth is that all of our ills are rooted in our bi-polar political system of both Republican and Democrats. And the meda is complicit in this system in that the voices of reason, logic and rational discourse don't sell papers, so the media help propagate our bi-polar system.
Anyone trumpeting the notion that all of our ills are founded in one party or the other are just tools of the corrupt system.
The fact is that there are many posters on the board who seem to believe that every single ill is rooted in the Democratic Party while every blessing is rooted in the Republican party. (To be fair, while the reverse is true, on this board the pro-Repubilcan tools far outnumber the pro-Democrat tools.) The truth is that all of our ills are rooted in our bi-polar political system of both Republican and Democrats. And the meda is complicit in this system in that the voices of reason, logic and rational discourse don't sell papers, so the media help propagate our bi-polar system.
Anyone trumpeting the notion that all of our ills are founded in one party or the other are just tools of the corrupt system.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 1:26 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Anyone trumpeting the notion that all of our ills are founded in one party or the other are just tools of the corrupt system.
...truth!!!
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