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re: Do the Saints need a new offensive line coach?
Posted on 1/17/14 at 5:19 pm to St Augustine
Posted on 1/17/14 at 5:19 pm to St Augustine
To your point St Augustine, they did (mostly) get better as the year went on. I'd give that credit to the coach who had to coach up and correct a squad that experienced a lot of turmoil over the course of the year.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 6:07 pm to blueslover
I mentioned this a while back, and I think people don't appreciate what a huge loss Kromer leaving to Chicago was. There is a reason our line was stable for most of Payton's tenure here no matter who played. The only major hick up came when Kromer was staffed with being head coach and couldn't focus his time on the OL.
Ingalls is simply not that good. May be a good RB coach, but as an OL he's very suspect. The whole OL regressed, so you can't place it on one player, thus it goes back to coaching.
Munchak would be a great hire and they could reassign Ingalls. He's also got talent to work with here. Hell, I'd even can Carmichael and replace him with Munchak since Payton is really who runs the offense just to get him as OL coach.
Ingalls is simply not that good. May be a good RB coach, but as an OL he's very suspect. The whole OL regressed, so you can't place it on one player, thus it goes back to coaching.
Munchak would be a great hire and they could reassign Ingalls. He's also got talent to work with here. Hell, I'd even can Carmichael and replace him with Munchak since Payton is really who runs the offense just to get him as OL coach.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 6:09 pm to Geauxgurt
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can Carmichael
Post fell apart here
Posted on 1/17/14 at 6:13 pm to Chad504boy
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Post fell apart here
I wasn't saying to do it, but if getting it came down to hiring a legit guy like Munchak by getting rid of Carmichael, then I'd do it in a heartbeat.
The Saints offense has run amazingly for 8 years under Payton for the most part, so it's not like Carmichael has been the sole reason.
Again, I am not advocating firing him, I simply think getting one of the best OL coaches in the league would be worth more than him IMO.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 6:17 pm to Geauxgurt
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Ingalls is simply not that good. May be a good RB coach, but as an OL he's very suspect. The whole OL regressed, so you can't place it on one player, thus it goes back to coaching.
Or the left tackle sucked horrifically, the two guards are aging/beat up and unable to protect the below average center, and the right tackle played at his ceiling which isn't the highest.
If we're gonna blame/credit coaching how about the fact that a rookie left tackle from Arkansas pine bluff arguably looked better than a former pro bowler in bushrod? Considering rookies are likely impacted more than 8 year veterans by a position coach I'd say he did pretty damn well. Or maybe it all comes back to actual talent/athleticism ....
This post was edited on 1/17/14 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 1/17/14 at 9:31 pm to St Augustine
Well Bret Ingalls was promoted from RBs coach to Oline coach when Kromer jetted for Chitgago. I wonder if he'd be put back into the RBs coach position? I don't know much about him, but if he's good at his job as RBs coach, it'd make more sense to put him back (if that's what he wants) and vacate the position.
I trust them, they made the right decision last year about the secondary's coach from Ole Miss. I think they do what's needed here too. In short, yes I do think they need a new Oline coach.
I trust them, they made the right decision last year about the secondary's coach from Ole Miss. I think they do what's needed here too. In short, yes I do think they need a new Oline coach.
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