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Posted on 1/2/14 at 3:37 pm to The White Lobster
It's not dying, but Goodell has to be concerned with three playoff games this weekend not yet sold out
Posted on 1/2/14 at 3:38 pm to The White Lobster
Big games are better on TV
You might see a drop off in attendees but people will Just prefer to be lazy and watch on their 60 inch HD Tv
You might see a drop off in attendees but people will Just prefer to be lazy and watch on their 60 inch HD Tv
Posted on 1/2/14 at 3:39 pm to The White Lobster
I think MLB should do something to fix the problems it has with television. That is the biggest issue for me. I know many others that just can't watch it. I have no clue how they can fix that though.
The end of the season, when teams are fighting for playoff spots, I can watch. There are just so many games, and a lot of them feel so meaningless early on. I will also admit that another huge reason I am not a baseball fan is likely because I have no team to cheer for. If Louisiana had a pro team I would watch because I am a big homer. I used to go to Astros games as a kid pretty often, but I've never been a big fan. The sport being hard for me to watch on TV, along with not having a team, are the main reasons I do not care for it at all.
The end of the season, when teams are fighting for playoff spots, I can watch. There are just so many games, and a lot of them feel so meaningless early on. I will also admit that another huge reason I am not a baseball fan is likely because I have no team to cheer for. If Louisiana had a pro team I would watch because I am a big homer. I used to go to Astros games as a kid pretty often, but I've never been a big fan. The sport being hard for me to watch on TV, along with not having a team, are the main reasons I do not care for it at all.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 3:40 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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But football and baseball are different games and hold different places in our society and history. I would honestly say that 50 years from now I could see baseball maintaining its popularity while football may be a question mark. Baseball seems to have greater survivability versus football. It's physically less dangerous than football and unlike Football it is the national pastime in places like Cuba, Venezuela, the Dominican Republic, and Japan and very very popular in Canada, South Korea, and Taiwan. Football can't claim that
I would wager football is more popular in Canada than baseball, and it's a popular sport in Japan (maybe akin to hockey in the US). And despite baseball's somewhat global popularity, the MLB is still the worlds only truly viable major league (NPB clubs are heavily subsidized advertising subsidiaries of major Japanese corporations, and only 2 or 3 could stand on their own). Though I agree that the North American-centric nature of football is a concern for the sport going forward (maybe even more than safety and issues, the complexity and length of game times, etc).
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 3:44 pm to CocoLoco
Yeah I agree they could do better with television. I wish announcers (especially individual team's announcers) were better educated and took more pride in their work and its impact on people's enjoyment of the game/desire to stick with baseball. There is so much that could be said between pitches, but announcers will often spout cliches or go off on a rant about something irrelevant. If they even say anything.
And I really wish they'd do away with the MLB.tv blackout policy. That would also help a lot.
And I really wish they'd do away with the MLB.tv blackout policy. That would also help a lot.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 4:36 pm to The White Lobster
awful awful article.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 4:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Isn't every sport making more money than ever?
football isn't dying. they're making more money now than ever
Posted on 1/2/14 at 5:03 pm to The White Lobster
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Yeah I agree they could do better with television. I wish announcers (especially individual team's announcers) were better educated and took more pride in their work and its impact on people's enjoyment of the game/desire to stick with baseball. There is so much that could be said between pitches, but announcers will often spout cliches or go off on a rant about something irrelevant. If they even say anything.
And I really wish they'd do away with the MLB.tv blackout policy. That would also help a lot.
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 6:31 pm to Billy Mays
They are being proactive in regards to play safety
This is what is killing the NFL. As much as the Tony Kornheisers of the world want to avoid the harsh reality, violence is a major draw for football. If you legislate it out you have the Arena Football.
This is what is killing the NFL. As much as the Tony Kornheisers of the world want to avoid the harsh reality, violence is a major draw for football. If you legislate it out you have the Arena Football.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 6:45 pm to The White Lobster
If football is dying, it may be because of a couple of factors...
1. Overexposure - larger tv screens; far more tv channels showing college and pro games; way too many meaningless bowls, and them renamed to reflect corporate greed instead of football tradition; NFL playoffs - too many teams playing too many end of season games, not to mention preseason nothing games - all televised on our big screen tvs at home. Oh, and did I mention the crazy prices of tickets for college and pro games?
2. I call this one the "kill the golden goose" factor. The NFL's predatory early signing of non-graduated college football underclassmen - destabilizes whole college teams (see LSU defense this year) and robs fans of fun of watching these very talented players develop over a full college career. I think this contributes to an apathy factor on the part of fans, who have discovered their favorite players have no real loyalty to their favorite team, other than as a vehicle to take them quickly to the big bucks they can make in the NFL. If the players don't care, why should I? Earlier departures from games, quieter fans in game can be symptomatic. I was at the Outback Bowl yesterday, sitting in the heart of the LSU section and was stunned by the relative quiet of the LSU fans compared to the far more numerous Hawkeye fans.
1. Overexposure - larger tv screens; far more tv channels showing college and pro games; way too many meaningless bowls, and them renamed to reflect corporate greed instead of football tradition; NFL playoffs - too many teams playing too many end of season games, not to mention preseason nothing games - all televised on our big screen tvs at home. Oh, and did I mention the crazy prices of tickets for college and pro games?
2. I call this one the "kill the golden goose" factor. The NFL's predatory early signing of non-graduated college football underclassmen - destabilizes whole college teams (see LSU defense this year) and robs fans of fun of watching these very talented players develop over a full college career. I think this contributes to an apathy factor on the part of fans, who have discovered their favorite players have no real loyalty to their favorite team, other than as a vehicle to take them quickly to the big bucks they can make in the NFL. If the players don't care, why should I? Earlier departures from games, quieter fans in game can be symptomatic. I was at the Outback Bowl yesterday, sitting in the heart of the LSU section and was stunned by the relative quiet of the LSU fans compared to the far more numerous Hawkeye fans.
This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 1/2/14 at 6:55 pm to BigBrian774
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Goodell has to be concerned with three playoff games this weekend not yet sold out
Just saw that 3 of the 4 home teams need blackout extensions.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 6:56 pm to The White Lobster
It's not dying, but the fallacy that it's this super popular game, is just that, a farce.
If not for Fantasy football, Office pools, and Gambling, NFL would be on Cable tv.
Billions are poured into fantasy football, hundreds of millions in office pools. Then the billions in nfl gambling.
Those are the reasons the NFL is the big dog. Nothing wrong with that, but let's keep it real, when trying to claim it's popularity.
Only 13 teams can sell out 8 fricking home games. Were not talking about 41 home games or 81, 8 fricking home games. Then, lets add, in the past couple of years, you had up to 3 teams per week, not even on local tv, because they couldnt even buy out enough to get the sell out gimmick. Blacked the frick out!
When you can't sell out 8 home games, your sport isn't that popular, it's popular to watch, because of the gambling, not the game.
College Football is 1000000000X better than NFL.
If not for Fantasy football, Office pools, and Gambling, NFL would be on Cable tv.
Billions are poured into fantasy football, hundreds of millions in office pools. Then the billions in nfl gambling.
Those are the reasons the NFL is the big dog. Nothing wrong with that, but let's keep it real, when trying to claim it's popularity.
Only 13 teams can sell out 8 fricking home games. Were not talking about 41 home games or 81, 8 fricking home games. Then, lets add, in the past couple of years, you had up to 3 teams per week, not even on local tv, because they couldnt even buy out enough to get the sell out gimmick. Blacked the frick out!
When you can't sell out 8 home games, your sport isn't that popular, it's popular to watch, because of the gambling, not the game.
College Football is 1000000000X better than NFL.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 7:19 pm to CocoLoco
MLB ratings may be down on national level (ESPN, TBS, Fox) but regional channels is up in many cities
Posted on 1/2/14 at 7:27 pm to The White Lobster
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Yeah I agree they could do better with television. I wish announcers (especially individual team's announcers) were better educated and took more pride in their work and its impact on people's enjoyment of the game/desire to stick with baseball. There is so much that could be said between pitches, but announcers will often spout cliches or go off on a rant about something irrelevant. If they even say anything.
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 7:50 pm to The White Lobster
I haven't watched an entire NFL game this season.
The last rule change regarding personal fouls for just hitting too hard was the last straw.
I thought it would be harder to give up, but it was surprisingly easy.
I quit the NBA (except the playoffs) when they outlawed hand-checks and re-legalized the zone.
That was really, really easy.
I may have to start watching baseball, until they start outlawing double plays or pitching too fast.
I get the player safety arguments, I really do. . .but the safer game is just plain unappealing.
I used to cheer big hits. Now you watch the ref to see if it was too hard. It's absurd.
The last rule change regarding personal fouls for just hitting too hard was the last straw.
I thought it would be harder to give up, but it was surprisingly easy.
I quit the NBA (except the playoffs) when they outlawed hand-checks and re-legalized the zone.
That was really, really easy.
I may have to start watching baseball, until they start outlawing double plays or pitching too fast.
I get the player safety arguments, I really do. . .but the safer game is just plain unappealing.
I used to cheer big hits. Now you watch the ref to see if it was too hard. It's absurd.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 7:52 pm to SoFla Tideroller
quote:Wrong.
violence is a major draw for football
It is THE major draw for football
Posted on 1/2/14 at 7:52 pm to Roaad
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Chad Johnson tweeted that he would buy out the remaining allotment of tickets for the Cincinnati Bengals' home playoff game this Sunday in order to avoid a local TV blackout.
It appears as if Johnson backed off of his offer yesterday after the Cincinnati Enquirer's Joe Reedy informed him that it would cost about $910,000. But, regardless, the situation presented us with a perfect microcosm of what being a Bengals fan truly entails.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:02 pm to The White Lobster
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Those aren't exactly easy issues to solve though
Just come up with more advertising variations of three card monte on the jumbotron. That will pack them in.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:40 pm to fbb
It's gotten to be a battle of attrition as much as anything else. I am a Packers fan but their number of guys out by the end of the year has been absurd the last few years and it's that way for a lot of teams.
Defenders not being able to do anything so that 4000 yd passing seasons aren't unusual makes it boring after awhile, like basketball.
Defenders not being able to do anything so that 4000 yd passing seasons aren't unusual makes it boring after awhile, like basketball.
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