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re: AAA game 1on1's
Posted on 12/30/13 at 7:26 pm to nolatrain504
Posted on 12/30/13 at 7:26 pm to nolatrain504
OK to everybody saying CG didnt look good or whatever... I agree he didnt do well in that drill. But thats a dumb drill to use LBs in, especially MLB... And then when you consider the backs he was going up against. Like Joe Mixon. Who can play either WR or RB. Just dumb to have a MLB going against that. And doesnt show the type of player CG is. Hes going to dominate during the game. That drill is a 1v1 drill where a MLB is going against a RB, with half the field to use, and no pass rush. I dont care if you have Patrick Willis out there. RBs/ WRs will win in that drill ever time. Wait til the game, CG is going to dominate. CG wasnt ranked as 1 of the top MLBs due to his pass coverage... come on people.
Trey Quinn looked fantastic. I was impressed with how well he used his arms and hands to get off the line and into his cuts and to create space. Uses the swim move over the DB when he turns, and the rip inside to get the DBs hands off him and create some space right before he made his cuts. Exactly how coaches teach it. And went up high and caught 1 of those balls. Kid looks great out there.
Trey Quinn looked fantastic. I was impressed with how well he used his arms and hands to get off the line and into his cuts and to create space. Uses the swim move over the DB when he turns, and the rip inside to get the DBs hands off him and create some space right before he made his cuts. Exactly how coaches teach it. And went up high and caught 1 of those balls. Kid looks great out there.
This post was edited on 12/30/13 at 7:30 pm
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 7:32 pm to KG5989
Thank you, couldn't have said it any better.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 7:41 pm to KG5989
Exactly. Would be like asking tony brown to perform MLB drills.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 7:48 pm to KG5989
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thats a dumb drill to use LBs in, especially MLB
No it's a very effective drill. You utilize that same drill in zone as well. CG will learn to read & react in due time. He's going to get to college & Chief will run him through lot of drills that he's not ran before & he may not succeed in @ first. Doesn't mean the drill is stupid. Only that he will have to develop the skills necessary to further complete his game.
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I dont care if you have Patrick Willis out there
Well he is arguable the best coverage LB in the game along with Bowman
Posted on 12/30/13 at 7:52 pm to KG5989
As far as Clifton Garrett is concerned, I've heard from someone that he is Chavis' most favorite recruit, like even in his Tennessee days. It could be hyperbole, but I'll trust the eval that coaches have over posters on this site.
GAM will be a very good player while in his time at LSU.
GAM will be a very good player while in his time at LSU.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 7:52 pm to bayoubengal225
not bashing CG but just from that sample size video i thought young looked like the more explosive, athletic LB in that drill
Posted on 12/30/13 at 7:54 pm to SteveLSU35
But he is only a 4 *
Right!!!!
Right!!!!
Posted on 12/30/13 at 7:56 pm to sunnydaze
(not aimed at you sunnydaze, just lazy with the scrolling)
Just because CG needs some work in an aspect (or a couple of aspects) of his game doesn't mean he isn't a quality recruit. Can teach coverage skills and reads. Can't teach build and athleticism (can enhance it though).
Or if he has an injury...
Just wanted to get that off my chest.
Just because CG needs some work in an aspect (or a couple of aspects) of his game doesn't mean he isn't a quality recruit. Can teach coverage skills and reads. Can't teach build and athleticism (can enhance it though).
Or if he has an injury...
Just wanted to get that off my chest.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 8:05 pm to I20goon
People really bashing CG3 in this thread ???? Dude is a beast and we're damn lucky to have his commitment
Posted on 12/30/13 at 8:11 pm to dustoff
I wouldn't say bashing. Just being critical. There's a difference.
Just saying that even if the criticism is valid (specifically 1-on-1 coverage skills) that it shouldn't escalate to bashing.
Just saying that even if the criticism is valid (specifically 1-on-1 coverage skills) that it shouldn't escalate to bashing.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 8:16 pm to I20goon
He's a beast. Really all there is to know. Seeing him in person confirms how physically imposing he is now & will be in purple & gold.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 8:17 pm to ForeLSU
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I saw at least 2 different numbers on players identified as Garrett...
The last highlight which went for a touchdown appeared to be #42 (worn by Kenny Young in the later clip). Garret looked like #8 and going half speed if you ask me.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 8:20 pm to OceanMan
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Garret looked like #8 and going half speed if you ask me
It's cold out here!! Hard to loosen up for the big fella I'm sure
Posted on 12/30/13 at 8:31 pm to WTGeaux2
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Nick Harvey looked great covering receivers not named Quinn...
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Quinn's lower body is a lot thicker than I expected it to be. What are his measurables. He's built nice.
Nick Harvey is an All-American for a reason, a great cover corner and is very quick and athletic.
Trey measures a shade over 6 ft when barefoot and strict, in the mid 190lb range during football season and 200 lbs in the off season, and measured a 6'6" wingspan yesterday. They did not do hand measurements, but I think he measures well there and God has blessed him with a great pair for sure!
I agree with you on his build. If I had a knock on him, it is that he needs to get his upper body caught up with his lower body, something that a college weight room should take care of!
Posted on 12/30/13 at 8:32 pm to Pear
quote:This..but thanks for talking shite on the #1 rated OLB we very much need you bunch of experts
Garret is injured
Posted on 12/30/13 at 8:33 pm to WTGeaux2
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Garret looked like #8 and going half speed if you ask me
It's cold out here!! Hard to loosen up for the big fella I'm sure
I agree! Lets cut the Army All_American kids some slack, they are not in Orlando, and it is cold out there!
Posted on 12/30/13 at 8:35 pm to WTGeaux2
Never said the drill is stupid. CB vs WR/RB, LB vs TE/FB.... thats a good drill and more realistic. Its dumb to have a MLB 1v1 against a RB like Joe Mixon with no pass rush and half the field to use. The drill is set up for the offense to win if you do it that way.
I mean its the same as putting Tony Brown at MLB when you run the oklahoma drill or some variation of it. He needs to tackle and take on blocks, but when are you really going to have Tony Brown taking on guards and FBs in the middle?? Never... When are you going to have Cliftin Garrett going man to man against a top notch all purpose style RB, with no pass rush and half the field for the offense to use?? Never.
And thats the reason I said Patrick Willis as an example, genius.
I mean its the same as putting Tony Brown at MLB when you run the oklahoma drill or some variation of it. He needs to tackle and take on blocks, but when are you really going to have Tony Brown taking on guards and FBs in the middle?? Never... When are you going to have Cliftin Garrett going man to man against a top notch all purpose style RB, with no pass rush and half the field for the offense to use?? Never.
And thats the reason I said Patrick Willis as an example, genius.
This post was edited on 12/30/13 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 12/30/13 at 8:55 pm to KG5989
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mean its the same as putting Tony Brown at MLB when you run the oklahoma drill or some variation of it. He needs to tackle and take on blocks, but when are you really going to have Tony Brown taking on guards and FBs in the middle??
How is a linebacker covering
backs out of the backfield comparable to a CB shedding blocks from a guard? Linebackers continuously cover backs whether it be man or zone. I don't recall seeing a CB shed blocks from a guard. You're taking the drill out of context. It's not about having half the field. It's about the LB being able to initially close the space the back has created to defend the pass. All linebackers no matter the scheme will @ some point have to cover a back out.
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no pass rush
This would be like disregarding a QB's mechanics in 7 on 7 because there is no pass rush.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 8:59 pm to WTGeaux2
CB.. Clifton Brown?? Nice
Dude... youre taking everything with way too much context. CG will not be guarding backs out the backfield... might not even play on obvious passing situations until he gets older. Kevin Minter did the same. And if he does have to guard someone, it will be a TE or a FB. Not an all purpose type RB out the backfield.
Mechanics look great at practice or just when throwing the ball around. In the game its different. And in the 7v7 if there isnt a time that the QB has to get the ball out by, then yea I would disregard the mechanics.
Dude... youre taking everything with way too much context. CG will not be guarding backs out the backfield... might not even play on obvious passing situations until he gets older. Kevin Minter did the same. And if he does have to guard someone, it will be a TE or a FB. Not an all purpose type RB out the backfield.
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This would be like disregarding a QB's mechanics in 7 on 7 because there is no pass rush.
Mechanics look great at practice or just when throwing the ball around. In the game its different. And in the 7v7 if there isnt a time that the QB has to get the ball out by, then yea I would disregard the mechanics.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:00 pm to TigerAlum93
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TigerAlum93
You out here in SA?
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I agree with you on his build. If I had a knock on him, it is that he needs to get his upper body caught up with his lower body, something that a college weight room should take care of!
I won't disagree there but I will say he uses his hand & arm technique to break free flawlessly
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