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re: Could Jeremy Hill be first or 2nd RB off the draft board?
Posted on 12/21/13 at 2:53 pm to tigersnipen
Posted on 12/21/13 at 2:53 pm to tigersnipen
You could say the same thing about SEC defensive units this year. Also, have you even seen Seastrunk play?
The only defensive unit from the SEC that was constantly good was UF. Everyone else was weak and Seastrunk could have gone beastmode mode in this league.
The only defensive unit from the SEC that was constantly good was UF. Everyone else was weak and Seastrunk could have gone beastmode mode in this league.
This post was edited on 12/21/13 at 2:57 pm
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Posted on 12/21/13 at 3:51 pm to Screaming Viking
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dude has the physical talent to be as good as he wants to be. got to get his mind right. if he learns to run angry, he will be a star. if he thinks he will be a star by showing up, then guys much less talented like t mcgee will continue to take carries from him for the rest of his career.
Wow. This is the reason I don't read the rant. Jeremy Hill is a monster, and a team will scoop him up in the first or second round. He showed it all at LSU... break away speed, the ability to juke, run over, and be a premier back against elite run defenses.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 3:57 pm to aslavey
I would prefer hill over the saints 1st round pick a few years ago. I think he's very comparable to Deuce Mcalister. Big strong, fast for a big back and will last all 4 quarters. Only negative is the off the field stuff which isn't too bad. Easily 2nd round back. Possibly late to mid first if he proves he is mature now. He would be a featured back somewhere?
Posted on 12/21/13 at 3:59 pm to Rod Farva
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Anyone who thinks hill is better than seastrunk needs their head examined.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 4:38 pm to Phil2012
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If I was an owner I would prefer he prove over the period of another year that he has got his mind right...and sometimes he doesn't run as tough as he could have. Yes, the money is very attractive to Hill, and I would take it if I were he and he is taken the first round. But to pay a guy a lot of money he'd have to show me more over another year...jmho
At the same time, other owners might be thinking that he is a much better bet over the long run since he hasn't had a long college career with a lot of carries. Since he has always shared carries with a couple of other backs each game at LSU for only one year, he should be a great long term prospect.
My only knock would be that he would have to come across well in his interview in terms of running harder and hitting the holes with more "Chest" and speed. Waiting for the hole to develop has it;s moments but there were times when Hill should have just used his ability to blow thru and get those important yards.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 6:54 pm to JBeam
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No they won't. Drafting tailbacks in the 1st Round is a tactic that has failed a number of teams recently. Will they go early in the 2nd Round? Yes.
You know what you said is stupid for a number of reasons right? You drafting them in the first or second makes no difference. You think Lacy gained 1000 yards because he was drafted in the second, not the first? Doug Martin was a first rounder and David Wilson was too. One panned out, the other didn't. Trent was a surefire first rounder and looked it for the most part his first year.
This post was edited on 12/21/13 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 12/21/13 at 6:57 pm to Datbayoubengal
No LSU players will be 1st round imo. Hill 3-4th rd.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 6:57 pm to Jcorye1
Tailbacks are a dime dozen in the NFL. As good as Hill,Gurley and Yeldon are they aren't needs and no GM should waste a 1st round (especially 1st Rd $$$) pick on them.
The only time you should ever consider taking an RB in the 1st isif he has AP potential.
The only time you should ever consider taking an RB in the 1st isif he has AP potential.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 6:59 pm to Phil2012
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and sometimes he doesn't run as tough as he could have.
What a douche bag comment! I dont ever remember seeing JH33 take a play off. He may have made a decision on a cut or something that cost him some more yards but the last thing I would ever say is that he did not run as tough as he could have...
Posted on 12/21/13 at 7:07 pm to The Mick
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No LSU players will be 1st round imo. Hill 3-4th rd.
this! who wants to bet?
Posted on 12/21/13 at 8:19 pm to JBeam
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As good as Hill,Gurley and Yeldon are they aren't needs and no GM should waste a 1st round (especially 1st Rd $$$) pick on them.
I promise you will see one or two first rd RBs next year and you can bookmark this post.
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Tailbacks are a dime dozen in the NFL
And WRs aren't?
Posted on 12/21/13 at 8:20 pm to The Mick
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Hill 3-4th rd.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 8:21 pm to Datbayoubengal
He hasn't proven enough to anyone to be the first or second RB yet.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 8:25 pm to Datbayoubengal
quote:The last two RBs to go in the 1st round were David Wilson & Doug Martin. Running backs like T.Richardson & M.Ingram have shown that RB's might be 1st Rd talent, but shouldn't be taken by teams that earlier.
I promise you will see one or two first rd RBs next year and you can bookmark this post.
quote:Tall physical wideouts with breakaway speed are put on a premium in this pass happy NFL. Example: AJ Green,Julio Jones,Deymarius Thomas, Dez Bryant.
And WRs aren't?
This post was edited on 12/21/13 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 12/21/13 at 8:30 pm to Clark W Griswold
quote:What? He's been a beast for two years and has the stats to back it up. In the sec. What more could he "prove"?
He hasn't proven enough to anyone to be the first or second RB yet.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 11:08 pm to JBeam
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Tall physical wideouts with breakaway speed are put on a premium in this pass happy NFL. Example: AJ Green,Julio Jones,Deymarius Thomas, Dez Bryant.
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The last two RBs to go in the 1st round were David Wilson & Doug Martin.
Yes, just 2 years ago.
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Running backs like T.Richardson & M.Ingram have shown that RB's might be 1st Rd talent, but shouldn't be taken by teams that earlier.
Bama RBs have shown you that.
There hasn't been a dynamic back worthy of a first round pick, but you bet your arse one or two of the three I mentioned will be taken in the first round next year.
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Tall physical wideouts with breakaway speed are put on a premium in this pass happy NFL. Example: AJ Green,Julio Jones,Deymarius Thomas, Dez Bryant.
And that's the reason why most team don't have a run game worth a shite. When you are one dimensional, all it takes is the QB or "premium" WR to have a bad day, and you lose.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 11:16 pm to Rod Farva
late 2nd or 3rd round.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 11:30 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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late 2nd or 3rd round.
It all depends on what the team drafting needs
Posted on 12/21/13 at 11:32 pm to Datbayoubengal
quote:or maybe they find decent running backs in later rounds and use a committee system.
And that's the reason why most team don't have a run game worth a shite. When you are one dimensional, all it takes is the QB or "premium" WR to have a bad day, and you lose.
quote:This didn't work out very well for. Martin went on IR halfway through the season and Wilson was benched for fumbling too much. As far as TRich & Ingram go, one of them can't learn the playbook and the other is a overrated product. I'll take my chances on the fact that J.Hill won't go in the first round in '14.
Yes, just 2 years ago.
Also, name me a team that absolutely needs a running back in the first round?
This post was edited on 12/21/13 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 12/22/13 at 4:25 am to Datbayoubengal
Hill runs soft. Name a back in the NFL that runs that way and is successful. RB's have to run violent at 235lbs. Hill simply doesn't. Yes he has great ability that he uses only a fraction of the time in my opinion. I'd draft a work horse like Magee has been for us over a back that has power size but runs like a scat back.
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