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Here are the facts about the SEC's bowl tie-ins & LSU's bowl chances
Posted on 11/24/13 at 9:44 am
Posted on 11/24/13 at 9:44 am
With so many posters predicting LSU will go to the Cotton Bowl and it will either be LSU or Texas A&M in the Cotton, here are the facts about the SEC's contractual bowl tie-ins.
LSU will likely finish the #6 "seed" in the SEC. Finishing above LSU will be Alabama, Auburn, Missouri, South Carolina and Georgia.
The SEC's bowl tie-in for the conference's #6 seed is the Gator Bowl vs. the Big 10's #4 seed.
The SEC's #5 seed goes to the Chick-Fil-A Bowl and for #7 it's the Music City Bowl.
The Capital One Bowl gets the SEC's #2 unless its #2 goes to a BCS bowl, in which case it gets to choose the SEC's #3 seed.
The Cotton Bowl gets the SEC's #3 or #4 depending on if the SEC's #1 is in the BCS Championship Game and its #2 is in a BCS bowl game.
Right now the SEC's #3 and #4 finishers will be either Auburn, Missouri, South Carolina or Georgia, depending on next week's results.
IMO, it is very optimistic (and unrealistic) to think the Cotton Bowl would drop all the way down to picking the SEC's #6 seed, LSU.
It sure as hell won't drop down to picking the SEC's #7 seed, Texas A&M, which might even be the #8 finisher in the SEC if they lose to Missouri next Saturday.
All bowl tie-ins for each conference
LSU will likely finish the #6 "seed" in the SEC. Finishing above LSU will be Alabama, Auburn, Missouri, South Carolina and Georgia.
The SEC's bowl tie-in for the conference's #6 seed is the Gator Bowl vs. the Big 10's #4 seed.
The SEC's #5 seed goes to the Chick-Fil-A Bowl and for #7 it's the Music City Bowl.
The Capital One Bowl gets the SEC's #2 unless its #2 goes to a BCS bowl, in which case it gets to choose the SEC's #3 seed.
The Cotton Bowl gets the SEC's #3 or #4 depending on if the SEC's #1 is in the BCS Championship Game and its #2 is in a BCS bowl game.
Right now the SEC's #3 and #4 finishers will be either Auburn, Missouri, South Carolina or Georgia, depending on next week's results.
IMO, it is very optimistic (and unrealistic) to think the Cotton Bowl would drop all the way down to picking the SEC's #6 seed, LSU.
It sure as hell won't drop down to picking the SEC's #7 seed, Texas A&M, which might even be the #8 finisher in the SEC if they lose to Missouri next Saturday.
All bowl tie-ins for each conference
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Posted on 11/24/13 at 9:46 am to LSURussian
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Right now the SEC's #3 and #4 finishers will be either Auburn, Missouri, South Carolina or Georgia, depending on next week's results.
Why is Bama left off this list? just curious.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 9:47 am to LSURussian
Conference standings aren't everything. A 3 loss lsu coming off of a big win is going to go ahead of a 4 loss Uga team
Posted on 11/24/13 at 9:47 am to LSURussian
How is UGA ahead of LSU if they win out?
Posted on 11/24/13 at 9:54 am to LSURussian
Bowls are only there to make money. Cotton would prefer a West team to put butts in the seats. No way they take USC or uga. Missouri probably goes to sugar, auburn to cap 1, uga to gator, USC to chick fila, lsu to cotton.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 9:56 am to LSURussian
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i get what your saying but why do the experts say LSU goes to cotton. I could link a few bowl projections for you. Plus talk on the radio last night of LSU going to the cotton bowl.
but Georgia is not impressive at all why would a bowl pick them over us.
usually the seeds work this way because there is a hierarchy of bowl selections. LSU has a chance at the cotton.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 9:57 am to LSURussian
I think all the powers that be are salivating for an LSU vs OK ST- and did Okie Cowboys shock the nation last night along with LSU shutting down JFF?
Posted on 11/24/13 at 9:58 am to LSURussian
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LSU will likely finish the #6 "seed" in the SEC.
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IMO, it is very optimistic (and unrealistic) to think the Cotton Bowl would drop all the way down to picking the SEC's #6 seed, LSU.
You're looking at it from a strictly standings based approach, though. Realistically, we'd be tied with George for #5 with them having a tie breaker. But that doesn't actually come in to play for bowl selections, as was demonstrated last season. The last time the Cotton Bowl took an East division team was 2005.
Based on rankings, which is more important than standings, LSU will potentially finish with the 3rd highest ranking in the SEC West. The biggest thing standing in the way of LSU to the Cotton Bowl, in my opinion, is the SEC not getting two teams in a BCS bowl.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 10:00 am to LSURussian
just to prove my point
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this one above picked aTm to finish above LSU, but this is because this was yesterday morning.
from a week ago
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I could link more russian but its not so far fetched to believe we go to the cotton bowl. Most of the experts have us going there.
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this one above picked aTm to finish above LSU, but this is because this was yesterday morning.
from a week ago
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I could link more russian but its not so far fetched to believe we go to the cotton bowl. Most of the experts have us going there.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 10:11 am to LSURussian
Last I checked (been a couple of seasons), it's pretty simple:
Capital One - first overall pick after BCS
Outback/Cotton are equal - first choice of East/West. If they want a team from the other division, they have to wait for the other to pick first.
Chicken - next pick
... and all the rest
There are some nuances about who they can pass over.
Capital One - first overall pick after BCS
Outback/Cotton are equal - first choice of East/West. If they want a team from the other division, they have to wait for the other to pick first.
Chicken - next pick
... and all the rest
There are some nuances about who they can pass over.
This post was edited on 11/24/13 at 10:13 am
Posted on 11/24/13 at 10:12 am to LSURussian
There is no seeding. The # is what order they pick in. The bowls will pick who they think will put the most asses in the seats. You should know this shite.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 10:20 am to LSURussian
You forgot aTm will lose to missou next week.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 10:23 am to LSURussian
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LSU will likely finish the #6 "seed" in the SEC. Finishing above LSU will be Alabama, Auburn, Missouri, South Carolina and Georgia.
Georgia has 4 losses overall. We will finish ahead of georgia bowl wise, and we currently trail only bama, aubbie, s.c., and missouri.
Now, if aubbie loses to bama and mizzou loses to tx am, a team we beat, then at end of season aubbie and mizzou will have 2 losses. S.c. will also have two losses if they win out.
So at that point it will be the same 4 teams ahead of us bowl wise, but we beat aubbie head to head, and beat a team that beat mizzou (assuming txam beats them). And they will be 10-2 and us 9-3 (assuming we beat arky).
Its tough to say, but that looks to me like aubbie goes sugar, mizzou capital one, and lsu cotton. South carolina will lose to bama (in sec championship game) and get outback bowl. Georgia gets gator bowl
This post was edited on 11/24/13 at 10:34 am
Posted on 11/24/13 at 10:27 am to LSURussian
It would be great to see LSU head back to the Chick-Fil-A Bowl. Dallas is just awful. I wish the SEC would break ties with the Cotton Bowl, unless aTm, Arkansas and either of the Mississippi teams are the only options for them.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 10:29 am to LSURussian
This is spot on IMHO.
Losing to Ole Miss really screwed up the Bowl situation for LSU.
Personally, I would prefer the Gator Bowl to the Chicken Bowl. I'm just tired of making that trip.
Losing to Ole Miss really screwed up the Bowl situation for LSU.
Personally, I would prefer the Gator Bowl to the Chicken Bowl. I'm just tired of making that trip.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 10:31 am to LSURussian
Your dumbass theory goes out the window when LSU beat both South Carolina and TAMU, but still ended up in the damn chicken bowl last year. We all had the same exact record plus we beat both head to head. Would you stop being a dumbass please?
Posted on 11/24/13 at 10:34 am to LSURussian
If all your "facts" about seeds were correct, then there would be no need for bowl selection committees. There would just be a chart and after the SECCG the bowls would be assigned. Since that obviously doesn't happen, and teams with better records get "lower" bowls than teams with worse records every year, I think your concept is pretty off base.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 10:35 am to LSURussian
i'm pulling for music city and don't care about all the rest of the crap. prestige is only there for a BCS bowl and i love to visit nashville.
Posted on 11/24/13 at 10:43 am to LSURussian
I'm gonna watch next weeks games, then the SECCG, then make my prediction. Too many what if's at this point
Posted on 11/24/13 at 10:45 am to LSURussian
Nice work and summary of how the bowls work for the SEC (on paper), but the bowl selections from one year ago more or less prove your entire post wrong.
...and thinking a 4-loss UGA will get a better bowl than a 3-loss LSU is just absurd
...and thinking a 4-loss UGA will get a better bowl than a 3-loss LSU is just absurd
This post was edited on 11/24/13 at 10:47 am
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