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re: where is Hill projected to be picked?
Posted on 11/15/13 at 6:39 pm to Datbayoubengal
Posted on 11/15/13 at 6:39 pm to Datbayoubengal
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Name me 3 recent RBs who has stayed around for 5 years in the system
alfred morris
demarco murray
doug martin
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Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:00 pm to dukke v
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No fricking way. He is either pouting or Miles is using him terrible. He is NOT running the same since the Ole Miss game.
Are you on record saying he won't reach 1300 yards?
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The SEC is down this year. Bama shut Hill down in the most important game for him. The NFL is looking for a rb that can catch the ball out of the backfield. Hill is a GREAT college back. Too bad Miles is an idiot and benched him after the fumble at Ole Miss.
Did you know Christine Michael went in the 2nd round last year? Do you know who that is? Have you ever seen his stats?
Did you know Eddie Lacy went in the 2nd round last year? Have you seen his stats?
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:08 pm to Lester Earl
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alfred morris
demarco murray
doug martin
Still to be seen how productive they can be for longer than 2 years though. It's still a rarity for a runningback to stay 5 years
ETA: These three are ticky tacky at best.
This post was edited on 11/16/13 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 11/16/13 at 7:18 am to Datbayoubengal
I think Hill is likely a 3rd-4th round, but I don't think the combine will help his stock. I could see it slipping. His performance on the field is what should stand out.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 8:17 am to coachvj
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I think his stock would rise if he stayed because next year team will run QB read
Not many backs go in the first round anymore. Think Hill will go in the second round, or third at the latest which is very good. He is a top three back in the nation, with a combination of size , quickness, and power that NFL covets, but is hard to find. With three games left, he will likely finish with near 1300 yards, averaging nearly 7 yards a carry. That's unreal, especially considering he sat out the opener, half of the second game, and should have received more carries in a few games where the coaches seemed to have lost their minds temporarily by not giving him carries that possibly could have helped the team(ole miss). Hill would be doing he right thing by leaving, because Les is all in for Fournette, and Hill's carries would only decrease after this year, meaning less production for him. Although I would love to see Hill and Fournette in the same backfield, if he doesn't leave it make for a crowded backfield with Hill, Fournette, Magee, (possibly)Hilliard, Paleile, possibly Darrell Williams.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 3:26 pm to Datbayoubengal
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Still to be seen how productive they can be for longer than 2 years though. It's still a rarity for a runningback to stay 5 years
i looked through 2 draft classes and about 7 different RBs. Those were 3 of them. They weren that hard to find
Posted on 11/16/13 at 8:10 pm to Lester Earl
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i looked through 2 draft classes and about 7 different RBs. Those were 3 of them. They weren that hard to find
Well I've looked back 10 years
Joseph Addai 2001-2005(medical redshirt)
Is the only productive back who stayed 5 years and had at least 2 good season. Ellington from last year is a new candidate, but from the last 10 years, only four 5 year college RBs (not including Ellington yet), have had at least more than one productive pro season.
And that's with me counting Murray who has yet to play more than 14 games in a season and has yet to have 900 rush yards or at least 5 total TDs in a single season. Also Doug Martin, who has played one year and looked like crap the next year.
I'll throw those two in which would give you three the last 2 years and one the last 7 years prior. Yes it is very rare, and the three you mentioned need five years to even get an ok.
Yes, it is VERY RARE!
Posted on 11/16/13 at 8:15 pm to Datbayoubengal
While its true RBs value in the drafts are dropping,its not like their value is dropping out of the draft like some people in here think. The top RB will go in the late 1st. Then, you have 3-4 RBs with 1st round talent still left on the board. Thats where Hill we be. Hill "falling" will be in the 3rd round.
And whats the point of staying another year when your stock is as high as it will get? You risk getting injured, go in the NFL with less tread on the tires, and if your stock is as high as it can get the only way is down. And in Hills case, the chance of getting in trouble too.
Hills a 1st round talent, but will be a 2nd-3rd round pick due to RB value dropping and his off the field issues. But will be starting. He really could go anywhere from the late 1st to the middle of the 3rd. But he wont make it out of the 3rd round. Too much talent.
And by the way, the reason he isnt listed on a lot of mock drafts for the 2014 draft is because those geniuses at the draft sites dont realize he is draft eligible. They see hes a SO, so dont think hes eligible. sooo smart.
And whats the point of staying another year when your stock is as high as it will get? You risk getting injured, go in the NFL with less tread on the tires, and if your stock is as high as it can get the only way is down. And in Hills case, the chance of getting in trouble too.
Hills a 1st round talent, but will be a 2nd-3rd round pick due to RB value dropping and his off the field issues. But will be starting. He really could go anywhere from the late 1st to the middle of the 3rd. But he wont make it out of the 3rd round. Too much talent.
And by the way, the reason he isnt listed on a lot of mock drafts for the 2014 draft is because those geniuses at the draft sites dont realize he is draft eligible. They see hes a SO, so dont think hes eligible. sooo smart.
This post was edited on 11/16/13 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 11/16/13 at 8:35 pm to coachvj
He owes LSU another year.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 8:51 pm to coachvj
Will Yeldon be benched for a while after his fumble?
Posted on 11/16/13 at 8:52 pm to coachvj
Lol. He gains nothing by waiting a year.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 8:59 pm to peopleschamp
Amazing Yeldon was back in the 1st series after his fumble.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 9:32 pm to Brageous
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I'm guessing high 2nd
I doubt that.
I think he'll be a 3rd round pick.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 9:50 pm to easy money
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but I don't think the combine will help his stock.
What?? The combine is going to be extremely helpful for Hill. He will measure in at 6'2, 235lbs. And will run in the 4.5s. For his size thats great. But where he will really shine is on the field drills. Will show how well he can move and how good of feet he has and will show that he is also a threat catching the ball. The combine is what I think will vault Hill up to 1 of the top backs in the draft class. I mean really look at this draft class. There isnt that many big RBs that can handle an NFL load. Hill can do that. You have DeAnthony Thomas and Lache Seastruck at the top of a lot of mock drafts. Both are 190lbs soaking wet. Hill is actually 1 of those big powerful RBs that fits well into any system and can handle an NFL load.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 9:53 pm to BhamBengal
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He owes LSU another year
No he doesn't
Posted on 11/16/13 at 11:05 pm to KG5989
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What?? The combine is going to be extremely helpful for Hill. He will measure in at 6'2, 235lbs. And will run in the 4.5s. For his size thats great. But where he will really shine is on the field drills. Will show how well he can move and how good of feet he has and will show that he is also a threat catching the ball. The combine is what I think will vault Hill up to 1 of the top backs in the draft class. I mean really look at this draft class. There isnt that many big RBs that can handle an NFL load. Hill can do that. You have DeAnthony Thomas and Lache Seastruck at the top of a lot of mock drafts. Both are 190lbs soaking wet. Hill is actually 1 of those big powerful RBs that fits well into any system and can handle an NFL load.
Was reading an article on NOLA and Mel Kiper(yeah, I know) was talking about where he think LSU guys would go and he has Hill at number 4 behind Gordon, Carey and Seastrunk. I've stated multiple times on here that Hill is a top 5 back and would go 3rd or fourth. I don't see Gordon leaving (just a hunch), and I actually think Grice goes 2nd behind Seastrunk. I interchange Carey and Hill because they both have/had character flaws, but they are both great backs.
RBs will be aplenty again this year and Hill's season stats (projects near 1300 yards, 17 TDs) in the SEC will get him a third round grade. His combine, will get somebody to jump on him in the 2nd round.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 11:23 pm to Datbayoubengal
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and he has Hill at number 4 behind Gordon, Carey and Seastrunk.
he's better than all of those guys, imo.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 11:25 pm to Lester Earl
Is he better than Bishop Sankey?
Posted on 11/16/13 at 11:35 pm to Paul Allen
Hill will go in the 1st round after the combine. He's currently a 2 nd rounder right now in the eyes of scouts.
He can run, block, and catch. He's a very talented RB.
He can run, block, and catch. He's a very talented RB.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 11:55 pm to coachvj
quote:I have not seen anything on this, yet I would not think he would go higher than the 6th round regardless of which year he enters the draft.
where is Hill projected to be picked?
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