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Do you wish the SEC would've got FSU?
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:34 am
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:34 am
You think they'd be a better fit than A&M or Mizzo?
This post was edited on 11/12/13 at 11:35 am
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:38 am to heypaul
Adding Florida State would do nothing for revenue for the SEC and Florida would never allow it.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:38 am to heypaul
Definitely a better fit than Mizzou but the SEC already had the Florida TV market and not St. Louis/Kansas City, which is what it's really all about.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:42 am to heypaul
It would've been cooler, and made 100x more sense, but like stated above, it's all about the TV market
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:44 am to heypaul
From a pure athletics, cultural, and geographical perspective absolutely.
This post was edited on 11/12/13 at 11:45 am
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:46 am to heypaul
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Do you wish the SEC would've got FSU?
For football it would have been cool, but it would have been absolutely awesome for baseball.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:46 am to Spaulding Smails
Yes, Florida is the third biggest state in the country and only having one team from the State does not lock-up the tv market. Because of FSU being in the ACC the SEC loses viewers to FSU games and ACC games. No matter how crappy you think the ACC is, the SEC is still losing viewers and that is reflected in the Nielson ratings which is how networks determine what to charge advertisers. Sure there is upfront money from CBS and ESPN and the SEC network will get fees as does ESPN but they still need advertisers and still need as many viewers as possible.
Florida State would have been a big benefit to the SEC. In fact the SEC back in the 90s asked FSU to join.
They would be better than Missouri by a long shot in terms of tv viewers both in Florida and the country.
Florida State would have been a big benefit to the SEC. In fact the SEC back in the 90s asked FSU to join.
They would be better than Missouri by a long shot in terms of tv viewers both in Florida and the country.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:48 am to heypaul
Strictly from a fan perspective, I would rather FSU than Mizzou or A&M. FSU and Clemson to be exact.
They don't make sense financially, and they would be blocked, but I think they would be much more enjoyable to have in the conference.
They don't make sense financially, and they would be blocked, but I think they would be much more enjoyable to have in the conference.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:49 am to Ralph_Wiggum
Agreed. The SEC would essentially own all of Florida.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:51 am to KosmoCramer
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Florida would never allow it.
this x 1000
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:52 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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Yes, Florida is the third biggest state in the country and only having one team from the State does not lock-up the tv market. Because of FSU being in the ACC the SEC loses viewers to FSU games and ACC games. No matter how crappy you think the ACC is, the SEC is still losing viewers and that is reflected in the Nielson ratings which is how networks determine what to charge advertisers.
You're dumbing it down way too much as far as TV revenue goes.
The BTN makes money when metro areas pick up the BTN I assume the same is for the SEC TV.
Most sets in Florida already have the SEC TV package I would guess.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:59 am to KosmoCramer
Not a chance in hell.
Why would I want a school that denied us 20 years ago because it was "too hard" in now?
Give me UNC/VT and we are set.
Why would I want a school that denied us 20 years ago because it was "too hard" in now?
Give me UNC/VT and we are set.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:19 pm to jefffan
Bowden knew exactly what he was doing when they joined the ACC. He knew he would be just another team in the SEC. In 1990, there was no Miami or VT in the ACC. Back then you had Clemson, Georgia Tech, and that was about it.
And when they joined, Georgia Tech had just showed you could have an above-average team and cheese your way through the ACC and win a share of the NC.
And when they joined, Georgia Tech had just showed you could have an above-average team and cheese your way through the ACC and win a share of the NC.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:22 pm to heypaul
nope
would rather have Va Tech over FSU
would rather have Va Tech over FSU
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:27 pm to heypaul
Honestly? I think Mizzou and A&M have assimilated pretty well into the SEC culture. Missouri football games and A&M football games alike are routinely packed. Mizzou has great baseball and basketball programs as well.
The only difference is that Mizzou is academically superior to all SEC schools except Vandy and Georgia and, maybe, Florida. But that doesn't really seem to matter much.
Both A&M and Mizzou enjoy their sports and competition, and both have already enjoyed quite a bit of success. The schools are supportive of their sports programs as is shown by both schools dumping a bunch of money into stadium renovations, and both fan bases are as rabid as most in the SEC.
So Mizzou grills brats instead of frying chicken. Whoopdeedoo. They drink hard and revel in the glory of their school, just like A&M, and just like the rest of the SEC. This "SEC culture" argument is a bunch of nonsense. Both schools fit and fit well.
The only difference is that Mizzou is academically superior to all SEC schools except Vandy and Georgia and, maybe, Florida. But that doesn't really seem to matter much.
Both A&M and Mizzou enjoy their sports and competition, and both have already enjoyed quite a bit of success. The schools are supportive of their sports programs as is shown by both schools dumping a bunch of money into stadium renovations, and both fan bases are as rabid as most in the SEC.
So Mizzou grills brats instead of frying chicken. Whoopdeedoo. They drink hard and revel in the glory of their school, just like A&M, and just like the rest of the SEC. This "SEC culture" argument is a bunch of nonsense. Both schools fit and fit well.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:39 pm to LoveThatMoney
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Honestly? I think Mizzou and A&M have assimilated pretty well into the SEC culture. Missouri football games and A&M football games alike are routinely packed. Mizzou has great baseball and basketball programs as well.
I used to live in Columbia, Missouri. They really don't care about football. Faurot field is about the size of Vaught-Hemmingway, probably smaller. They are more like Kentucky and Vanderbilt. If they have a good football team, they'll support it. But basketball is king.
When I lived there, they were still Big 12. They could have finished 0-12 in football but beat Kansas once in basketball and it would be the GREATEST YEAR EVER.
They treat Norm Stewart like he was their Bear Bryant, and he never even got them to the Final Four. One of the sports bars I used to go to had all kinds of memorabilia, and like 90 percent of it was from that one week they were #1 in basketball.
This post was edited on 11/12/13 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:41 pm to lsutigers1992
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I used to live in Columbia, Missouri. They really don't care about football. Faurot field is about the size of Vaught-Hemmingway, probably smaller.
are you trolling or just ignorant and speaking completely out of your arse?
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:45 pm to Dr RC
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are you trolling or just ignorant and speaking completely out of your arse?
No, jackass. When I was there, capacity was around 58,000. We had a "guess the attendance" pool every week. The stadium didn't even sell out at the beginning of the year that Chase Daniel had them at #1 for the Big 12 Championship.
I see now that it's like 70,000. I guess they now count the grass end zone as seating. Nobody even sat there 5 years ago. There was no demand for it.
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