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re: What is your view on the new LHSAA playoff system?

Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:12 am to
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:12 am to
Sam... public schools are funded by the state. They dont care if they have a sell out game or 22 people in the stands. Doesnt chance much for them.

That said, this new format is completely stupid and ridiculous.
Posted by tigertalkster
Member since Dec 2009
644 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 11:23 am to
Also think class c will be gone before to long to me perfect system would have 5 leagues publi leagues the smallest of which doesn't play football and 2 privet leagues then would only be 6 football state championships with separation from public and private. All parties will never be happy but something had to be done with all the private schools in all the lhsaa sports they have won right at 75% of the state championships and that is with class b that has very few private school teams
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:05 pm to
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I think private league should probably only be 2 leagues and think it should be done with all sports just look at what schools are winning everything every year and it's easy to see it's not fair towards the public school. Also I've been going to the dome the last 5 years and the private school teams honestly brings very few fans.


There is a whole lotta fail in this statement. The whole reason the publics wanted to keep the regular season the same and split only in the playoffs is that the private schools gate receipts help keep their programs afloat. The only thing I agree with is it should be for all sports, not singling out football.
Posted by Lee Chatelain
I love the OT!
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 1:15 pm to
LHSAA went "full retard" on this one
Posted by ponchytiger
Ponchatoula, LA
Member since Jan 2005
305 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 1:42 pm to
I have all the respect in the world for a school like Mt. Hermon who at 0-10 would have been in the 2A non-select playoffs. They turned down the playoff birth. I agree that his system will not last long, possibly not after this year. If it does I fully believe the select schools will take their money and run, creating their own association. I also think they will invite any public school interested to join them. This would be the beginning of the end of the LHSAA. Without the money from the select schools the association could not function.
Posted by Sam Malone
Boston, MA
Member since May 2013
27 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:35 pm to
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I agree that his system will not last long, possibly not after this year. If it does I fully believe the select schools will take their money and run, creating their own association. I also think they will invite any public school interested to join them. This would be the beginning of the end of the LHSAA. Without the money from the select schools the association could not function.





hhhmmmmm, so you saying the private schools will form their own organization, like LISA (Louisiana Independent School Association) and leave the LHSAA? then, what will the LHSAA do when the legislatures finally pass a bill giving themselves control over publicly funded schools and any organization associated with those publicly funded schools which also receives public funds.


this all sounds very interesting, i wonder if John Curtis and Evangel are a little worried that they will be left behind after the reshuffling.

and to the person that said he's been to the championship games the past 5 years and private schools don't bring a lot of fans. those fans that watch their team in the dome, watch every game they play, while the majority of public schools have fans that show up for that one game. it's all the other public schools that don't make it to the dome that will be hurt by not playing private schools in the playoffs.

over the last 35 years, i've seen too many high school games, that i see the writing on the wall. the worst was a private vs public regular season game. the private side(away) was sold out with people standing along the fence, while the public (home) had maybe ten fans in the stands. they lost by 50 points, but even the principal said they scheduled the game in hopes of getting a good gate and concessions for the schools account. meanwhile, La. has private schools that go out of their way to schedule other private schools, because perception is public schools don't bring fans for away games and they make a smaller gate and concessions.

Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:47 pm to
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I think private league should probably only be 2 leagues

This. There are too many classifications in the private section. And, if I remember correctly this was at the behest of the private schools themselves. Once the split went down none of them, especially the smaller ones wanted to be stuck with Curtis so they raised hell until they got more classes. And it resulted in what you see with very small classes.

Though I do have to say - there should be some excellent games in Class II private league.
Posted by bigcatfish
Member since Feb 2009
1282 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 6:38 pm to
I think if you would take a poll of public school coaches in all sports, they would be in favor of a split. The legislature can't take over the LHSAA. The only way they can have an impact is by dictating what schools do if they receive public funds. BESE has already stated that they do not want anything to do with overseeing athletics which is what would happen if the legislature would try to get involved.
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
4955 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 6:48 pm to
It stinks. Most of this has to do with programs like Curtis, Evangel, etc. If the LHSAA had the courage to enforce the rules these programs could be brought under control. I think it is interesting that no Catholic schools are in the larger playoff brackets; this is ridiculous. Rummel is the only team on the 5a level that has won a championship in a long while; so these teams are not elite. Jesuit and Holy Cross haven't won a championship in about 50 years. Brother Martin won in the 1970's. I don't know if St. Aug has won anything since the 1980's. Where is the elitism in this. I admit that some of these schools do go after good athletes, but a number of public schools do that also. Just do what Lusher did and freeze the Patriots and Eagles and teams like them out.
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
4955 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 6:52 pm to
The athletic programs might get some money from the state, but very little. All teams have to raise money, especially football, to cover costs. The state does not subsidize these programs.
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 7:47 pm to
St Aug has put 42 players into the NFL, yet has won only two State Championships, in 75 and 79 iirc. After Otis Washington left to join Coach Stovall's Staff at LSU, they have had modest success with elite talent. The same may hold true with the current Coach.
Posted by bigcatfish
Member since Feb 2009
1282 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 9:16 pm to
I disagree that public schools want the gates from the private schools. Also, public school's budget for athletics are generated by the sports. They do not get state money for athletics.
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
11950 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 10:28 pm to
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Meanwhile, Barbe and West Monroe are two of the biggest recruiting schools along with them, and not one word is said.


Which player in particular did Barbe recruit?
Posted by bayoubilly57
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
461 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 1:07 am to
It should of been change a long time ago
Posted by Topisawtiger
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
3513 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 3:28 am to
To put schools that recruit, i.e. private/catholic schools in the same division as the public schools that supposedly can't recruit is just plain stupid. All it accomplishes is that the private schools win more championships.

Case in point, our oldest daughter played high school softball and "ONE" year they had a really good team. They lost to the eventual state champion that was a private school by two runs twice in the playoffs. The private school went on to ten-run everybody else they played. Their headmaster admitted to me that they recruited and had essentially an all-star team. What that did was prevent a public school who played what they had in their district from winning a championship that rarely comes their way.

Putting public/private teams in the playoffs together is just fundamentally chickenshite.
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