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re: Jameis is going to be a better qb prospect than luck
Posted on 12/10/13 at 9:08 am to boom roasted
Posted on 12/10/13 at 9:08 am to boom roasted
quote:As of right now, Vegas has FSU as a favorite against every SEC team. Although i think them and Bama may be a push, or possibly Bama still favorites. But you are correct, they wouldn't have been projected to win at the beginning of the season
Bama started as #1 in the country..
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Posted on 12/10/13 at 9:09 am to lsupride87
So you don't agree with this statement?
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If they were in the Sec, they would have been the favorites for the title right from the beginning.
Posted on 12/10/13 at 9:12 am to boom roasted
quote:I agree I was wrong there. I should have said at this point they would be favored to win the SEC(although I think that may still be Bama)
So you don't agree with this statement
Posted on 12/10/13 at 9:15 am to lsupride87
I just like watching people backtrack.Posted on 12/10/13 at 9:16 am to boom roasted
quote:I will admit when I am wrong. Not back tracking on my opinion that FSU is the real deal. Any man worth his salt can admit when he was incorrect
I just like watching people backtrack
This post was edited on 12/10/13 at 9:17 am
Posted on 12/10/13 at 9:29 am to lsupride87
Oh I think they are the real deal, it's just extremely tough to run through a great league unscathed. I think Saban's Bama teams lost.I thin even Pete Carroll's teams at USC usually dropped a game
Posted on 12/10/13 at 9:47 am to Sevendust912
quote:I agree. I think it is very possible they would drop a game in the SEC. But to the yahoo that said they would lose 4 is ridiculous. That puts them on par with Ole Miss and Vandy
Oh I think they are the real deal, it's just extremely tough to run through a great league unscathed. I think Saban's Bama teams lost.I thin even Pete Carroll's teams at USC usually dropped a game
Posted on 12/10/13 at 6:53 pm to Sevendust912
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College awards should have nothing to do with the evaluation process, since many are handed out to players that produce the best statistics or win popularity contests. However, they can be used by personnel staffs as some form of confirmation bias. Instead of reflecting on the Heisman finalists’ 2013 seasons, lets project them to the next level.
Florida State redshirt freshman QB Jameis Winston
Player Comparison: Andrew Luck, in terms of eye level, athleticicsm and comfort in the pocket.
Where He Wins: An outstanding prospect in a variety of ways. A very confident pocket mover, keeping eyes up in the face of pressure to survey the field. Can improvise and find open space to throw if necessary, or wins from a phone booth/tight spaces. Understands where his weapons win. For big receivers, allows them to win at the catch point. For shifty targets, puts them in the open field.
Where He Fits: I don’t see an offense he does not fit in. Jimbo’s offense is complicated, but Winston runs it masterfully.
NFL Projection: Future No. 1 overall pick, likely May of 2015.
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Alabama senior QB A.J. McCarron
Player Comparison: A poor man’s Matt Ryan.
Where He Wins: What you see is what you get. McCarron would carry out the orders of his play caller, targeting the necessary first read with touch and precision. He can hit a second read or checkdown thanks to pocket movement, but is limited in terms of target depth once moved off his plant foot. Experience from center and in the gun helps.
Where He Fits: An offense with weapons around him. Won’t be asked to elevate or carry talent around him, but instead he can work within the gameplan and his limitations. I don’t think he can hit vertical receivers consistently.
NFL Projection: Already some first-round buzz building, and I wouldn’t be surprised if coaches, once they join the evaluation process, like what they see. Top-64.
A disrespect to Matty Ice
Nah, not a bad a comparison.
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This post was edited on 12/10/13 at 6:54 pm
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:15 am to BigEdLSU
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Jameis is going to be a better qb prospect than luck
Agree or disagree? Kid is going to win the heisman this year and win the next two championships before going #1.
He would be the #1 pick this year at 19 years old.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:20 am to BigEdLSU
you heard this guys talk after the BCS game right? you have to have it between the ears in the NFL
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:22 am to hawkeye007
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you heard this guys talk after the BCS game right? you have to have it between the ears in the NFL
That's a bit unfair. He was riding an emotional high, and he just played 4 quarters of intense football. Give him a break. And, again, Brett Favre wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer when he made it to the NFL.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:23 am to BigEdLSU
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Jameis is going to be a better qb prospect than luck
Agree or disagree? Kid is going to win the heisman this year and win the next two championships before going #1.
He would be the #1 pick this year at 19 years old.
#1 pick at 19 =/= better prospect than luck
heisman =/= better than anyone in the nfl
if heisman = success, then a lot of NFL scouts/gms are tards for not starting troy smith, tebow, and leinart.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:25 am to htran90
Winning a championship this year does not help prove your point any... Move along
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 10:26 am
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:31 am to BigEdLSU
Auburn's defense is nothing special and gave him fits. More than likely would have beaten him without a completely boneheaded play on the last drive.
He has done nothing to suggest he is better than Luck yet.
He has done nothing to suggest he is better than Luck yet.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:32 am to htran90
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#1 pick at 19 =/= better prospect than luck
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heisman =/= better than anyone in the nfl
These are true, but let's just look at what we have. Jameis has MUCH better numbers than Luck when Luck was a freshman. In fact, Luck's numbers don't even compare until his last year in college. Jameis is a special talent. He may very well be a better QB than Andrew Luck.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:34 am to LNCHBOX
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Auburn's defense is nothing special and gave him fits. More than likely would have beaten him without a completely boneheaded play on the last drive.
Didn't this board always rag the Pac-10/12 never playing any defense? Andrew Luck adapted to the NFL. Jameis may very well do the same.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:38 am to BigEdLSU
Luck has proven himself in the NFL.
Jameis isn't there yet. He will not have a strong year next year.
Jameis isn't there yet. He will not have a strong year next year.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:42 am to SabiDojo
I'm emphasizing that it is way too early to tell.
barkley had some great numbers as well and look where he's at. NC showed me that he's better than average, but his receivers made plays and auburns dbs whiffing at the worst time.
Is he good, yes. Is he going to be on luck's level in a few years, possibly. Too early to tell. Hell, if that's the argument JFF had better numbers than luck as well.
barkley had some great numbers as well and look where he's at. NC showed me that he's better than average, but his receivers made plays and auburns dbs whiffing at the worst time.
Is he good, yes. Is he going to be on luck's level in a few years, possibly. Too early to tell. Hell, if that's the argument JFF had better numbers than luck as well.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:42 am to BigEdLSU
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Winston has a stronger arm, has equal leadership traits, equal accuracy and decision making.
And you can tell this from one year of college ball? I think the pro game might be a bit faster (decision making), the windows might be a bit smaller (accuracy), leading grown men might be different than leading 19 year olds and Drew Brees would like to tell you that arm strength doesn't equate to success at the next level and I'm not totally convinced it's that much stronger. And you can exclude the Heisman Trophy, nobody cares in the pro's about that.
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