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re: Post your unpopular sports opinions
Posted on 10/29/13 at 10:02 am to LL012697
Posted on 10/29/13 at 10:02 am to LL012697
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16th in the league in passing...are you giving Brees credit for having the best RB in the league at the time?
The original poster said "orchestrates a top 5 offense". Brees as the QB was the orchestrator of the Charger's offense. He just so happened to have Tomlinson on that team. You could argue that Brees' passing numbers would have been greater in 2004 if they didn't have a back like LT which would have forced them to rely more on the pass instead of the run. Evidence of this would be the Saints who had have had several years with a terrible running game since Brees has been the QB but have still had top 5 offenses.
So Brees only gets credit if he single-handedly has a top 5 offense? What about receivers? Does Brees get to actually have receivers catch his passes to qualify?
Also, last year, the Saints were in the top 5 without Payton on the sidelines.
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Posted on 10/29/13 at 10:25 am to LSUnowhas2
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The original poster said "orchestrates a top 5 offense". Brees as the QB was the orchestrator of the Charger's offense. He just so happened to have Tomlinson on that team.
Fair enough...I interpreted it just in terms of passing offense since we're talking about QBs
Posted on 10/29/13 at 4:39 pm to LSUnowhas2
What I said is that Brees could not be inserted into any system and orchestrate a top 5 offense. Obviously he does under Payton and was able to in SD as well. Brees is an elite, hall of fame QB who would excel anywhere, but the only reason he is a hall of fame level QB IMO is because his talents match perfectly to Payton's system. He wasn't HOF level in SD and the Chargers already were moving to elevate Rivers even before Brees's injury. Brees is a superior QB to Ryan in every way, but if they switched teams, I don't think the Saints would diminish drastically on offense. Ryan may not have won a super bowl, but I think he is good enough to keep the Saints offense humming under Payton.
I am a die hard Saints fan and Brees is the best player in franchise history bar none, but I do believe his level of success is very much dependent on Payton's system (to be sure, this is true of many other QBs in their respective systems).
I am a die hard Saints fan and Brees is the best player in franchise history bar none, but I do believe his level of success is very much dependent on Payton's system (to be sure, this is true of many other QBs in their respective systems).
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