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What would Metallica be like if Cliff Burton had never died?

Posted on 10/3/13 at 4:15 pm
Posted by WikiTiger
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Posted on 10/3/13 at 4:15 pm
Let's face it: Metallica was better with Burton.

"Ride the Lightning" and "Master of Puppets" are two of the best metal albums ever put out, and "Kill 'Em All" ain't half bad for a debut.

Now, I'm not saying that Metallica post-Burton was bad, because I very much enjoy "...And Justice For All," "Metallica," "Load," and "Reload," however, I can't help but think that the Metallica we have come to know would be very different.

As I understand it, Burton was more of the creative leader of the group. I remember an interview where James talked about how Burton would regularly teach the rest of the guys music theory.

I think Metallica may not have been as commercially successful with Burton but would have perhaps been more artistically genuine.

What do you think?



Sub-topic: What would Metallica be like if Burton had never died and Dave Mustaine would have never gotten kicked out?
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39373 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 4:27 pm to
They'd be exactly the same. AJFO would sound better though.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
54297 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 4:46 pm to
Not trying to rip you, but I feel like I've seen this question about a thousand times.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 10/3/13 at 5:55 pm to
quote:

if Cliff Burton had never died


A little more thrash.

quote:

if Burton had never died and Dave Mustaine would have never gotten kicked out


A lot more thrash.

Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39373 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 6:03 pm to
And Justice for Jason

Someone redubbed the entire album and turned the bass up to where you can actually hear it. This guy did a pretty good job. Worth a listen if you've never heard it before.
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
Lafayette
Member since May 2013
11615 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 9:03 pm to
I think the band would have been a little more progressive if Burton hadn't died.
Posted by caill430
Da Dirty Dell
Member since Jul 2005
1110 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 11:00 pm to
NOOOO00000
Posted by TideHater
Orange Beach AL
Member since May 2007
19706 posts
Posted on 10/4/13 at 6:13 am to
What if Burton and Mustain would have still been in the band today?

I might even like them if that was the case.
Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
10753 posts
Posted on 10/4/13 at 11:06 am to
Not sure if Newsted was handicapped creatively with his basslines or Cliff was just that much more creative, but Cliff's basslines were infinitely better than Jason's. Cliff also wrote the acoustic intros to Fight Fire with Fire and Battery, I believe. Cliff was into classical and like previously stated, understood music theory much better than James or anyone else.
Posted by weinrib
Toronto
Member since Sep 2013
2804 posts
Posted on 10/5/13 at 10:57 pm to
They would be the same only different.
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