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What would Metallica be like if Cliff Burton had never died?
Posted on 10/3/13 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 10/3/13 at 4:15 pm
Let's face it: Metallica was better with Burton.
"Ride the Lightning" and "Master of Puppets" are two of the best metal albums ever put out, and "Kill 'Em All" ain't half bad for a debut.
Now, I'm not saying that Metallica post-Burton was bad, because I very much enjoy "...And Justice For All," "Metallica," "Load," and "Reload," however, I can't help but think that the Metallica we have come to know would be very different.
As I understand it, Burton was more of the creative leader of the group. I remember an interview where James talked about how Burton would regularly teach the rest of the guys music theory.
I think Metallica may not have been as commercially successful with Burton but would have perhaps been more artistically genuine.
What do you think?
Sub-topic: What would Metallica be like if Burton had never died and Dave Mustaine would have never gotten kicked out?
"Ride the Lightning" and "Master of Puppets" are two of the best metal albums ever put out, and "Kill 'Em All" ain't half bad for a debut.
Now, I'm not saying that Metallica post-Burton was bad, because I very much enjoy "...And Justice For All," "Metallica," "Load," and "Reload," however, I can't help but think that the Metallica we have come to know would be very different.
As I understand it, Burton was more of the creative leader of the group. I remember an interview where James talked about how Burton would regularly teach the rest of the guys music theory.
I think Metallica may not have been as commercially successful with Burton but would have perhaps been more artistically genuine.
What do you think?
Sub-topic: What would Metallica be like if Burton had never died and Dave Mustaine would have never gotten kicked out?
Posted on 10/3/13 at 4:27 pm to WikiTiger
They'd be exactly the same. AJFO would sound better though.
Posted on 10/3/13 at 4:46 pm to WikiTiger
Not trying to rip you, but I feel like I've seen this question about a thousand times.
Posted on 10/3/13 at 5:55 pm to WikiTiger
quote:
if Cliff Burton had never died
A little more thrash.
quote:
if Burton had never died and Dave Mustaine would have never gotten kicked out
A lot more thrash.
Posted on 10/3/13 at 6:03 pm to WikiTiger
And Justice for Jason
Someone redubbed the entire album and turned the bass up to where you can actually hear it. This guy did a pretty good job. Worth a listen if you've never heard it before.
Someone redubbed the entire album and turned the bass up to where you can actually hear it. This guy did a pretty good job. Worth a listen if you've never heard it before.
Posted on 10/3/13 at 9:03 pm to WikiTiger
I think the band would have been a little more progressive if Burton hadn't died.
Posted on 10/4/13 at 6:13 am to WikiTiger
What if Burton and Mustain would have still been in the band today?
I might even like them if that was the case.
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I might even like them if that was the case.
Posted on 10/4/13 at 11:06 am to WikiTiger
Not sure if Newsted was handicapped creatively with his basslines or Cliff was just that much more creative, but Cliff's basslines were infinitely better than Jason's. Cliff also wrote the acoustic intros to Fight Fire with Fire and Battery, I believe. Cliff was into classical and like previously stated, understood music theory much better than James or anyone else.
Posted on 10/5/13 at 10:57 pm to WikiTiger
They would be the same only different.
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