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re: When do you add your wood chips/chunks for a low and slow smoke?

Posted on 10/8/13 at 10:04 am to
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
28064 posts
Posted on 10/8/13 at 10:04 am to
Bumping this from a couple weeks ago for another question. First, the pork came out with just the amount of smoke flavor I wanted, so thanks to everyone for the suggestions. I didn't soak but used two applewood chunks near the bottom of the lump bed and put a couple more on top once the temp was stabilized.

My issue this time was getting the temp low enough. It took much longer than it probably should have.

I tried this
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Lid is wide open.

One my lessons learned when using lump charcoal was that it has a creosote layer on it. This needs to burn off. It usually shows as a blueish color in the smoke and will impart a undesired flavor. The coals are burning clean when evidenced by "clear" smoke

and before I knew it I had a massive fire going. I almost had to shut the vents completely off to get the temp under control and that appeared to cause more bad smoke as it was basically choking out.

So do you think I let it burn and flame too long originally? Would a smaller flame maybe on one side of the lump accomplish the same thing with the creosote, or does it all have to burn?

Again, everything eventually got to where it needed to be and it came out fine. But it took me well over an hour from fire start to meat add, so it seems like I went wrong somewhere.
Posted by tirebiter
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Posted on 10/8/13 at 3:20 pm to
Can't say I notice "creosote" with lump charcoal, some S. American sourced lump may burn a little smokey early on. If you are using a mix of prior used lump and new lump I don't see that as an issue whatsover. If you are doing a low and slow you are better off closing the lid after 8-10 minutes and you have placed wood chunks, meat, etc in the cooker. Using an electric starter and cleaning the ash/debris out of the bottom grate for clear air flow I typical pull the starter at around 8 minutes and place wood chunk/s and additional lump in quantity to provide enough fuel with a decent margin of safety, ie can run a few hours past estimated finish time. Here is an example. You are right about waiting until the fire is raging to close and cook and it wastes your chunks and lump.

Existing lump from prior cook after clean out, this was after replacing a cracked firebox I kept cooking on for 4.5 yrs:




If you are using fire starters, chimney, whatever it is similar. Place the wood chunks on the glowing embers and add more lump on that. With the Primo I always place the meat on the grate first to avoid being smoked out by the chunks, you may have to do that last with BGE with no real divided firebox. No terribly right or wrong way to get it done, but I strongly prefer the first 45 minutes or so be at low heat, say 200, and letting a large blaze form defeats the purpose and takes more time. Hope this helps, best thing is make sure the bottom grate is clear and have good air flow which makes regulating the temps much easier.

I really do prefer high quality dense lump, like Wicked Good, mixed with less dense like BGE or Royal Oak lump which are both produced by RO, it keeps a consistent burn over a lonnngg time frame. Keep working at it, you'll find a happy medium/process and have good outcomes.

This post was edited on 10/8/13 at 3:30 pm
Posted by Woody
Member since Nov 2004
2452 posts
Posted on 10/8/13 at 3:57 pm to
I don't get a "massive" fire going. I place a few large wood chunks on the bottom, add some lump, and then mix chips/chunks with some lump on top. Light charcoal with vents wide open and get a steady fire going...not a big fire, but just enough for a steady burn that you can reduce to a smolder. Then I move my vents and zero in on the desired temperature.

Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16644 posts
Posted on 10/9/13 at 9:47 pm to
MOT - sorry if my suggestion turned out bad. When I first got my BGE and never having used lump before, I ruined several meats, etc. The main culprit was getting up to temp before getting a clean burn and placing the meat on the grill. The bad smoke would impart an undesirable flavor. My children would refer to the chicken as "burnt house chicken" because that's what it tasted like.

Maybe I over compensate but after learning what I was doing wrong, I've never repeated by misfortune again.

You can certainly get a roaring flame my way. But what's important is getting a clean burn (which I usually key off the color of the smoke).

If it seemed to take to long to 'cool down', I would suggest stirring the charcoals once/twice after lighting, then closing the lid (with some part of the cap open), and monitoring the temp. Continue to adjust the vents as req'd until you achieve your desired temp.

One the target temp is reached, open the lid, add in your wood (stir if needed), position plate setter, then grill, and finally place meat on.

I really enjoy learning from others hopefully they'll continue the discussion.
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