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has any reporter brought up Ingram's unproductiveness to Payton?
Posted on 9/9/13 at 11:39 am
Posted on 9/9/13 at 11:39 am
Anybody know if Sean has had a comment. Just wondering what the staff sees. This Staff is typically a good evaluator....so it shocks me the blinders that pull for a few specific players. Ingram, Jenkins more specifically. Shocked to see Ingram start game and continue to get the most meaningful snaps at the most meaningful times.
Posted on 9/9/13 at 11:43 am to ShlikStyck
The just said it on Sports Today in BR. And i agree. I think the play calling is terrible when Ingram is in the game. The defense doesn't even bother worrying about passing when Ingram comes in, so he's always running against loaded boxes. They either need to not play him or change up the play cling when he's in. It's way too predictable right now when he comes in. Very similar to when LSU would put RS in at QB.
Posted on 9/9/13 at 11:44 am to ShlikStyck
well frick. i cant get up from my desk for a few minutes.
anyhow... before we all bash Ingram. Was Ingram ever in the game for a passing down? One of the reasons i suspect PT and DS are more successful is they are bigger play action/pass catching threats. Last year every time Ingram was in the game, he ran the ball. Pretty easy for defenses to target.
Did we do anything to break that pattern yesterday?
anyhow... before we all bash Ingram. Was Ingram ever in the game for a passing down? One of the reasons i suspect PT and DS are more successful is they are bigger play action/pass catching threats. Last year every time Ingram was in the game, he ran the ball. Pretty easy for defenses to target.
Did we do anything to break that pattern yesterday?
This post was edited on 9/9/13 at 11:46 am
Posted on 9/9/13 at 11:46 am to ShlikStyck
does it matter? Payton doesn't give a shite what any reporter thinks or has to say. Ingram was disappointing but payton stuck with the run and that balance paid off. The falcons abandoned the run for no reason. They do it all the time, and @ mike smith. fricking terrible coach. Great GM in ATL, but terrible coach.
Posted on 9/9/13 at 11:47 am to BobBoucher
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Did we do anything to break that pattern yesterday?
No, but the dude can't break a tackle to save his life. It looks like he's got daylight and somehow he's always on the ground. Looks to have an easy 5-8 yrds and he get's 3. PT looks to have 3 and gets 5-8.
Posted on 9/9/13 at 11:48 am to LNCHBOX
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I think the play calling is terrible when Ingram is in the game
The coaching staff isn't stupid, if we know that Ingram = Run Play, and the opposing defense knows that Ingram = Run Play, then it's safe to assume our coaching staff realizes this as well. I think the correct answer is Ingram can't do anything but run and he needs to be traded to a situation where that can be a useful skill.
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PT looks to have 3 and gets 5-8
Tackle breaking aside, with PT the defense never knows if they should play a run, pass or screen.
This post was edited on 9/9/13 at 11:49 am
Posted on 9/9/13 at 11:50 am to LNCHBOX
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Very similar to when LSU would put RS in at QB.
Shame shame
Posted on 9/9/13 at 11:54 am to TigerinATL
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The coaching staff isn't stupid, if we know that Ingram = Run Play, and the opposing defense knows that Ingram = Run Play, then it's safe to assume our coaching staff realizes this as well. I think the correct answer is Ingram can't do anything but run and he needs to be traded to a situation where that can be a useful skill.
If he can't do anything else, they shouldn't play him at all. If they're going to keep playing him, they need to at least try. Otherwise, these will continue to be wasted downs.
Posted on 9/9/13 at 12:03 pm to LNCHBOX
Since Detroit loves our RBs how about Ingram for Bell. shite that wont work either.
Posted on 9/9/13 at 12:23 pm to TigerinATL
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I think the correct answer is Ingram can't do anything but run
You are giving him too much credit.
Posted on 9/9/13 at 12:29 pm to ShlikStyck
Ill take ingram over bush anyday
Posted on 9/9/13 at 12:31 pm to rantfan
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Ill take ingram over bush anyday
Posted on 9/9/13 at 12:44 pm to ShlikStyck
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PT looks to have 3 and gets 5-8.
Best true RB on the team. Sproles is great, but 3rd or 4th and 1 yard to go, I hope we See Pierre every time.
Posted on 9/9/13 at 3:05 pm to burdman
I know this has been talked about over and over but after Sunday's game I don't see how you can continue playing Ingram. It's just so damn obvious who should be getting the carries. Whether it be that Ingram just sucks or if it's all he can do is run and the D knows it. The fact is PT has proven what he can do. He's a run threat and pass threat. Give him Ingram's carries and we'll have a dominant run game.
PT - 9 carries 43 yards
Shitbag Ingram - 9 carries 11 yards
I mean HELLO!!
PT - 9 carries 43 yards
Shitbag Ingram - 9 carries 11 yards
I mean HELLO!!
Posted on 9/9/13 at 5:03 pm to kpin
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Whether it be that Ingram just sucks or if it's all he can do is run and the D knows it.
Ingram actually caught some passes out of the back field in pre-season so I know he can catch. Problem is, they line him up in the I and everybody in the world knows it's a run. Frick, AP, Bo Jackson, or Hershel Walker couldn't get yards in that scenario and then he gets yanked out after 1 play. Shiz, if I'm Ingram, I am begging to get the frick out of NO.
Posted on 9/9/13 at 5:24 pm to MWP
There is too much history of every other back being more productive than Ingram for 3 yrs now to continue making up excuses for him.
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