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re: Simmons continues ragging on Pelicans...
Posted on 8/1/13 at 12:40 pm to corndeaux
Posted on 8/1/13 at 12:40 pm to corndeaux
A big thing I have problems grasping is the starting level player coming off the bench. Everyone says it doesn't matter, that he will play major minutes anyway. But there is still that stigma that comes with it. For example, if Monty came out tomorrow and said that Anderson would be the starter at PF, Smith at Center and Davis is the back-up at both.. How do you think that announcement would play around the league? You can use all the same arguments that you use for Evans (he'll still play big minutes, thrive against 2nd units, etc). But almost everybody will think its a slap in the face to Davis, cause he is a better player than Anderson (or will be very soon). That you don't bring your franchise player off the bench. How is that different than Evans?
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Posted on 8/1/13 at 2:03 pm to brmark70816
You answered your question. Evans isn't our franchise player.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 2:23 pm to brmark70816
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if Monty came out tomorrow and said that Anderson would be the starter at PF, Smith at Center and Davis is the back-up at both.. How do you think that announcement would play around the league?
Davis is a star, Anderson is a quasi star. You aren't really helping yourself by holding Davis back. And it's not that there's no stigma, it's that there's no shame in being the 3rd or 4th best player on the team. Your 5 starters are not always your 5 best players.
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How is that different than Evans?
I was very much against throwing money at Pekovic because I feel he's too one dimensional to justify his salary for the amount of minutes he'd get. If Evans could only play SG it'd be a similar waste of cap space. But because Evans can play 1,2, and 3, you can justify his expensive redundancy because of his versatility. I might feel differently if we had a shot at a stud SF, but considering our options, adding Tyreke to the SF by Committee should do a decent job of plugging a long time hole.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 2:37 pm to brmark70816
That is a solid point, but you really are looking at basketball as it was being played in the mid 90's, not how it is being played today.
With the new influx of analytics in the league, Coaches and GMs are starting to figure out that you have a better odds of winning by 1) reducing injuries 2) having specialized expert role players and 3) maximizing your efficiency in the minutes played.
The best way to achieve those goals is to have a pretty good player come of the bench EX: Ray Allen -Miami, Manu- Spurs, JR Smith - Knicks, etc. . .
Arguably Miami won the championship because Ray Allen and the Spurs lost the championship because of Manu. In a few years I doubt if any player will take it as a slap in the face if he needs to come off the bench to make the team better. That is just the way the league is moving. The Pelicans should not get caught in a traditional mindset that your star players have to start.
With the new influx of analytics in the league, Coaches and GMs are starting to figure out that you have a better odds of winning by 1) reducing injuries 2) having specialized expert role players and 3) maximizing your efficiency in the minutes played.
The best way to achieve those goals is to have a pretty good player come of the bench EX: Ray Allen -Miami, Manu- Spurs, JR Smith - Knicks, etc. . .
Arguably Miami won the championship because Ray Allen and the Spurs lost the championship because of Manu. In a few years I doubt if any player will take it as a slap in the face if he needs to come off the bench to make the team better. That is just the way the league is moving. The Pelicans should not get caught in a traditional mindset that your star players have to start.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 4:07 pm to brmark70816
Debatable that Evans is better than healthy and engaged Gordon, assuming we see that Gordon. But regardless this:
Plus smart rotations mean Monty can stagger minutes so that Evans off the bench is running his own team v opposing bench units as the focal point for at least 10-15 minutes every night.
Evans and Anderson is the most talented duo off the bench in the league. Mix and match Morrow, Rivers, Steimsma/Smiht and then some of the starters and you can create some very effective lineups when benches are on the floor.
Like we talked about earlier, finding the right balance and combinations will be tricky. Integrating Holiday/Gordon/Evans on the floor at the same time will also be a challenge. The potential is there but it will probably take some time to figure out.
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If Evans could only play SG it'd be a similar waste of cap space. But because Evans can play 1,2, and 3, you can justify his expensive redundancy because of his versatility
Plus smart rotations mean Monty can stagger minutes so that Evans off the bench is running his own team v opposing bench units as the focal point for at least 10-15 minutes every night.
Evans and Anderson is the most talented duo off the bench in the league. Mix and match Morrow, Rivers, Steimsma/Smiht and then some of the starters and you can create some very effective lineups when benches are on the floor.
Like we talked about earlier, finding the right balance and combinations will be tricky. Integrating Holiday/Gordon/Evans on the floor at the same time will also be a challenge. The potential is there but it will probably take some time to figure out.
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