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re: Your starting secondary
Posted on 7/19/13 at 6:52 pm to KG5989
Posted on 7/19/13 at 6:52 pm to KG5989
I didn't post that I think Collins will be passed because I thought I saw him get beat once by Ole Miss.
Collins came out of spring of 2012 as the starter and lost the starting job to a true freshman, Jalen Mills. So it's happened before.
This year,two true freshmen are coming in with physical skills I hear from reliable people are as good, and probably better, than Mills. Given White's high football IQ (and IQ in general), he should be ready to compete immediately with Collins for playing time. I hear he already has the defense figured out.
Given that I hear Tre'Davious is more physically gifted -- particularly in terms of pure speed and fluid hips -- it's going to be tough for Collins to hold him off.
And beyond that, I hear Robinson may be more physically gifted than even White. Given that the nickel role is more limited than the staring role, there's a decent chance Robinson picks up that assignment, making it tough for Collins.
I'm not against Collins playing, but I do think he'll have to be better than last year not because he was horrible, but because the general perception around LSU is they upgraded the talent at the position with this incoming class.
And there is depth there too. I was actually impressed by Holmes in the spring game.
Collins came out of spring of 2012 as the starter and lost the starting job to a true freshman, Jalen Mills. So it's happened before.
This year,two true freshmen are coming in with physical skills I hear from reliable people are as good, and probably better, than Mills. Given White's high football IQ (and IQ in general), he should be ready to compete immediately with Collins for playing time. I hear he already has the defense figured out.
Given that I hear Tre'Davious is more physically gifted -- particularly in terms of pure speed and fluid hips -- it's going to be tough for Collins to hold him off.
And beyond that, I hear Robinson may be more physically gifted than even White. Given that the nickel role is more limited than the staring role, there's a decent chance Robinson picks up that assignment, making it tough for Collins.
I'm not against Collins playing, but I do think he'll have to be better than last year not because he was horrible, but because the general perception around LSU is they upgraded the talent at the position with this incoming class.
And there is depth there too. I was actually impressed by Holmes in the spring game.
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 8:01 pm to CourseyCorridor
Dude, alot of what you just said is false.
Collins was never pegged to be the starter for 2012. It was Simon and TM7. So, not sure where you got that he was pegged as a starter...
Collins was behind Simon after spring. Then, TM7 gets booted. So he was replaced with Mills. The system Chavis runs when it comes to CBs is 1 tall, rangy, physical true book end CB with a smaller playmaker/ball hawk. Collins was never pegged as the starter. Sorry. Dont know where you got that from.
So, our #3 CB from last year turns into the #4 this year when we lose a starter?? Right.. right... Now Holmes is better than Collins... And now 2 high schoolers are better than not just Collins, but Mills too. Who was the best freshman DB in the SEC last year and most likely the country and was a freshman all american. And also projected as a 1st rounder when hes eligible to go. But, the 2 high school players who have never played a down of college football are better than them. Wow. Down the road will White and RR be better than them?? Maybe. But they arent coming in better from day 1. Sorry. Not true.
Collins was horrible?? Where the frick are you people getting this crap from... Made the All SEC freshman team and was 3rd on the team in passes defended, but was horrible. Makes sense.
We got good looking DB prospects. Doesnt mean they are coming in and starting and will be an upgrade.
Sorry, Collins will be a full time starter all season.
Collins was never pegged to be the starter for 2012. It was Simon and TM7. So, not sure where you got that he was pegged as a starter...
Collins was behind Simon after spring. Then, TM7 gets booted. So he was replaced with Mills. The system Chavis runs when it comes to CBs is 1 tall, rangy, physical true book end CB with a smaller playmaker/ball hawk. Collins was never pegged as the starter. Sorry. Dont know where you got that from.
So, our #3 CB from last year turns into the #4 this year when we lose a starter?? Right.. right... Now Holmes is better than Collins... And now 2 high schoolers are better than not just Collins, but Mills too. Who was the best freshman DB in the SEC last year and most likely the country and was a freshman all american. And also projected as a 1st rounder when hes eligible to go. But, the 2 high school players who have never played a down of college football are better than them. Wow. Down the road will White and RR be better than them?? Maybe. But they arent coming in better from day 1. Sorry. Not true.
Collins was horrible?? Where the frick are you people getting this crap from... Made the All SEC freshman team and was 3rd on the team in passes defended, but was horrible. Makes sense.
We got good looking DB prospects. Doesnt mean they are coming in and starting and will be an upgrade.
Sorry, Collins will be a full time starter all season.
This post was edited on 7/19/13 at 8:17 pm
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